De La Hoya: Pacquiao makes fighters lose on the scales 1st

[miron_lang]

If size doesn't matter, then why not have Manny at the very least come down to 140?

Because Manny has a Welterweight title and his last fight was even at a higher weight plus he's not the one asking for the fight. he's the one approving

He isn't just winning fights, but is breaking orbital bones. He didn't use to carry this kind of clout. He was heavy handed, but not like this. None of the opponents at smaller weights were getting busted up in this way.

Mate as much as i respect you, You have to excuse me but you are totally wrong on this one.

he busting the bigger guys because they can absorb heavier blows. He's absolutely a Julian Jackson type of a puncher at the lower weights.

See : Chocviat, Sasakul , Lucero, Barotillo( Right hook) all kayoed with one shot

To be honest, I worry that Marquez might get get blown away if the fight is at WW. Manny has had time to grow into the weight and has stayed busy at the weight. Marquez has tried it once and looked poor, though it was against Mayweather.

Manny has all the advantages and having it at WW is simply not a fair fight. We criticised Mayweather for it and yet we are calling for Manny to be given a free pass for it? At the very least it should go to 140, so that Marquez is at least fighting somewhere near his own weight. Otherwise, it is a fight that I have a very hard time justifiying.

i think partially the opposite, I think Pac wins again but will struggle again. There's no way he blows him out. Im not joking when i say Manny is tailor made for Marquez.

JMM is the absolute counterpucher. he operates best when he's being rushed and being chased. that means more opportunities for him.

I also think he's an average fighter when facing a boxer who waits and doesnt initiate.

see Salido, John, Norwood, Floyd

[JazMerkin]

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i think partially the opposite, I think Pac wins again but will struggle again. There's no way he blows him out. Im not joking when i say Manny is tailor made for Marquez.

JMM is the absolute counterpucher. he operates best when he's being rushed and being chased. that means more opportunities for him.

I also think he's an average fighter when facing a boxer who waits and doesnt initiate.

see Salido, John, Norwood, Floyd

That statement should be a banning offence.

John didn't beat him, you should not win in the pros if you box like that & in all honesty you'd struggle in the amateurs because at least half the shots wouldn't be counted as scoring. Norwood just ran & Salido was comfortably beaten. Only Floyd actually beat him out of those guys, the only other fighter who can claim that is Pacquiao, even if I think JMM won both fights narrowly.

[miron_lang]

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i think partially the opposite, I think Pac wins again but will struggle again. There's no way he blows him out. Im not joking when i say Manny is tailor made for Marquez.

JMM is the absolute counterpucher. he operates best when he's being rushed and being chased. that means more opportunities for him.

I also think he's an average fighter when facing a boxer who waits and doesnt initiate.

see Salido, John, Norwood, Floyd

That statement should be a banning offence.

John didn't beat him, you should not win in the pros if you box like that & in all honesty you'd struggle in the amateurs because at least half the shots wouldn't be counted as scoring. Norwood just ran & Salido was comfortably beaten. Only Floyd actually beat him out of those guys, the only other fighter who can claim that is Pacquiao, even if I think JMM won both fights narrowly.

I retract that statement.

If you notice i didnt say any details about those fights. But he's not at all impressive in these fights. The point is a come forward fighter will make him look good.