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    Default Re: Mosley 90% the Pacman fight will happen.

    I consider this fight as a measuring stick to where PAC and PBF is right now in their careers. I dont think this Mosely is any different from the Mosely that losed to PBF.
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    mosley is way past his prime but i still believe he's going to be a danger to pacquiao for one thing. pacquiao's is going to be there to get hit and besides, he leaves himself open all night. still, unless mosley finds the fountain of youth, it's going to be pacquiao by decision.

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    I'd rather see him fight Berto, even if Berto is unproven he has an undefeated record and was set to face Mosley a while ago. Mayweather dominated Mosley far too much (aside from the 2nd round) for this to appeal, as he's clearly past his best.
    I know undefeated records stand for little if you haven't fought complete quality, but who knows where Berto will stand in the future, and it'd at least make a chance for Pac to fight an up and coming fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    mosley is way past his prime but i still believe he's going to be a danger to pacquiao for one thing. pacquiao's is going to be there to get hit and besides, he leaves himself open all night. still, unless mosley finds the fountain of youth, it's going to be pacquiao by decision.

    Nah, unless shane kayos him early, Pac will stop shane with too many punches. I can't ever remember seeing shane cover up from a punch, he always uses head and body movement which he clearly doesn't have anymore. Pac will stop him, and they will use that to say he's greater than PBF. Nasim was about to stop shane in the PBF fight. If floyd would have thrown more he could have stopped shane because he was too tired to do anything.
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    this is what i cannot understand. andre berto is out there. he's a defending champion, undefeated, fast and very powerful. sure he's untested but at least he's a fresh body who probably hasn't hit his physical prime yet.

    then there is marquez. sure he's 37 years old but he can still fight. besides, he just beat a young, strong fighter in katsidis very impressively last saturday night. and out of all of pacquiao's opponents with the exception of the first morales fight, he's the one who's done more damage to pacquiao by outboxing him thoroughly and winning a big majority of the rounds.

    but now pacquiao has chosen shane mosley as his next opponent? excuse me but isn't this cherry picking at it's finest? mostly WAS a great fight but his time is over. he can't move like he once could. why is pacquiao going after this guy?

    okay, if pacquiao is afraid to fight marquez a third time because marquez has his number, why not go after a younger guy like andre berto? other websites are pissed off at pacquiao and bob arum for taking such a nice "easy" fight against a once great fighter but one who is too old and washed up.

    many boxing fans are starting to call manny pacquiao, duckquiao and i think he definitely deserves this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    this is what i cannot understand. andre berto is out there. he's a defending champion, undefeated, fast and very powerful. sure he's untested but at least he's a fresh body who probably hasn't hit his physical prime yet.

    then there is marquez. sure he's 37 years old but he can still fight. besides, he just beat a young, strong fighter in katsidis very impressively last saturday night. and out of all of pacquiao's opponents with the exception of the first morales fight, he's the one who's done more damage to pacquiao by outboxing him thoroughly and winning a big majority of the rounds.

    but now pacquiao has chosen shane mosley as his next opponent? excuse me but isn't this cherry picking at it's finest? mostly WAS a great fight but his time is over. he can't move like he once could. why is pacquiao going after this guy?

    okay, if pacquiao is afraid to fight marquez a third time because marquez has his number, why not go after a younger guy like andre berto? other websites are pissed off at pacquiao and bob arum for taking such a nice "easy" fight against a once great fighter but one who is too old and washed up.

    many boxing fans are starting to call manny pacquiao, duckquiao and i think he definitely deserves this.
    I'll explain it. Mosley and Marquez are big names; Berto isn't. Moreover, Berto is too green. Berto couldn't sell any tickets if his life depended on it. In Berto's only step up in competition against Collazo, he barely scraped by. Berto needs a big fight (or two) to get into the limelight and make it worth it for a Pacquiao or Mayweather to fight him.

    Pacquiao wants to fight at 147 because at this point his team feels that is where he's most effective. Nothing wrong with that. If Pacquiao fought Marquez at 147, people would say that it is unfair to Marquez because Marquez was ineffective the one time he ventured above 135. In my opinion, its not that Marquez is ineffective above 135, its that he is unproven above 135. In a perfect world, Marquez would fight Mosley and the winner would fight Pacquiao. Is the money that different for Mosley and Marquez that fighting Pacquiao is more worth it than fighting eachother?

    Will someone explain to me why Timothy Bradley isn't the best candidate out there? He meets every criticism put on Pacquiao recently: He's black, he's young/in his prime, he's been on HBO a bunch, and he'll be at his most recognized after he beats Alexander in January, and to top it off, he's proved effective at 140 and 147.

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    Everything Rantcatrat said is true, I feel the Berto fight would be worth the financial sacrifice though, for at the end of the legacy to show on his record, or Bradley as you said. Either way, it's about time he faced someone a lot younger, as he probably only has a few fights left.

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    Regardless of who PAC fights outside of PBF, there is always something negative to be said about him. So I say PAC fights whoever is the biggest draw. I'm pretty sure since PAC says he is still fighting for 3 more years eventually he is going to be fighting Berto or anyone else who is young and capable of beating PAC, their time will come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by milmascaras1 View Post
    this is what i cannot understand. andre berto is out there. he's a defending champion, undefeated, fast and very powerful. sure he's untested but at least he's a fresh body who probably hasn't hit his physical prime yet.

    then there is marquez. sure he's 37 years old but he can still fight. besides, he just beat a young, strong fighter in katsidis very impressively last saturday night. and out of all of pacquiao's opponents with the exception of the first morales fight, he's the one who's done more damage to pacquiao by outboxing him thoroughly and winning a big majority of the rounds.

    but now pacquiao has chosen shane mosley as his next opponent? excuse me but isn't this cherry picking at it's finest? mostly WAS a great fight but his time is over. he can't move like he once could. why is pacquiao going after this guy?

    okay, if pacquiao is afraid to fight marquez a third time because marquez has his number, why not go after a younger guy like andre berto? other websites are pissed off at pacquiao and bob arum for taking such a nice "easy" fight against a once great fighter but one who is too old and washed up.

    many boxing fans are starting to call manny pacquiao, duckquiao and i think he definitely deserves this.
    I'll explain it. Mosley and Marquez are big names; Berto isn't. Moreover, Berto is too green. Berto couldn't sell any tickets if his life depended on it. In Berto's only step up in competition against Collazo, he barely scraped by. Berto needs a big fight (or two) to get into the limelight and make it worth it for a Pacquiao or Mayweather to fight him.

    Pacquiao wants to fight at 147 because at this point his team feels that is where he's most effective. Nothing wrong with that. If Pacquiao fought Marquez at 147, people would say that it is unfair to Marquez because Marquez was ineffective the one time he ventured above 135. In my opinion, its not that Marquez is ineffective above 135, its that he is unproven above 135. In a perfect world, Marquez would fight Mosley and the winner would fight Pacquiao. Is the money that different for Mosley and Marquez that fighting Pacquiao is more worth it than fighting eachother?

    Will someone explain to me why Timothy Bradley isn't the best candidate out there? He meets every criticism put on Pacquiao recently: He's black, he's young/in his prime, he's been on HBO a bunch, and he'll be at his most recognized after he beats Alexander in January, and to top it off, he's proved effective at 140 and 147.
    IMO Tim Bradley will not have the power to bother PAC, nor the defense to keep PAC off him. Berto, Mosely and Martinez are the scary ones IMO.
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