He has a point!

[generalbulldog]

well what about a timothy bradley, amir khan, alexander, andre berto, alfredo angulo, yuri foreman, canelo alvarez, erislandy lara, or if he wants to really get kinky, sergio martinez at 154? besides, isn't pacquiao the defending WBC 154 jr. middleweight champion? martinez already said he would go down to 154 to fight pacquiao so what's up?

or is it maybe that the above mentioned fighters are still young, in their prime and would pose a serious threat to the anointed one? hmmm!

As a fan. I would love that. this would be my preference

Berto and Bradley 2011 and then
Alvarez and maybe Sergio in 2012 if he is up for it.


but Pacquiao is 32 with 57 fights on the record. Other notable retired fighters didnt even have that many fights.

I wont hate him if he chose to have a little break in his next fight.

If PAC beats Saul they'll say Saul is too green, if he destroys Bradley, Bradley is too small even though actually Bradley is slightly bigger than PAC. There's always excuses.

No one who isn't an idiot would say that Bradley was too small for Pacquiao, they'd simply say Pacquiao was too good, which is likely the truth.

I would bet my life on it that there will be at least 5 regular members here that will say Bradley is too small if Pac fights him and beats the guy, that or he was too green. It's one of the 2 that will be used.

[CFH]

well what about a timothy bradley, amir khan, alexander, andre berto, alfredo angulo, yuri foreman, canelo alvarez, erislandy lara, or if he wants to really get kinky, sergio martinez at 154? besides, isn't pacquiao the defending WBC 154 jr. middleweight champion? martinez already said he would go down to 154 to fight pacquiao so what's up?

or is it maybe that the above mentioned fighters are still young, in their prime and would pose a serious threat to the anointed one? hmmm!

As a fan. I would love that. this would be my preference

Berto and Bradley 2011 and then
Alvarez and maybe Sergio in 2012 if he is up for it.


but Pacquiao is 32 with 57 fights on the record. Other notable retired fighters didnt even have that many fights.

I wont hate him if he chose to have a little break in his next fight.

If PAC beats Saul they'll say Saul is too green, if he destroys Bradley, Bradley is too small even though actually Bradley is slightly bigger than PAC. There's always excuses.

No one who isn't an idiot would say that Bradley was too small for Pacquiao, they'd simply say Pacquiao was too good, which is likely the truth.

I would bet my life on it that there will be at least 5 regular members here that will say Bradley is too small if Pac fights him and beats the guy, that or he was too green. It's one of the 2 that will be used.

Well, we have plenty of regular members who happen to be idiots...

I might buy into Bradley being too green to be honest, but I don't think he'll ever be good enough to beat the current version of Pacquiao.

[milmascaras1]

bulldog,

who was the last fast, in his prime fighter pacquiao fought who also wasn't coming off a loss? nuff said!

[arcanum26]

who was the last fast, in his prime fighter pacquiao fought who also wasn't coming off a loss? nuff said!

You or somebody else would still find fault in him after say, winning against Berto (you do want him to fight manny right?) if ever that fight gets made and manny plows through him. No I'm not saying it's gonna happen 100%. Just an example.

Here's another example that did happen recently. Before the pac margo fight, you favored margarito to win against manny. Yet after his win against margo, you're still saying he's a fraud/protected fighter. Where is the consistency in that? So even if he demolishes a fighter you picked would win against him you still won't give him props?

[miron_lang]

Here's another example that did happen recently. Before the pac margo fight, you favored margarito to win against manny. Yet after his win against margo, you're still saying he's a fraud/protected fighter. Where is the consistency in that? So even if he demolishes a fighter you picked would win against him you still won't give him props?

hey mil

can you address this logically?


You also said you give Pac full props for the Margarito win and yet he's a protected fighter? As Arcanum said where is the consistency?

[UKPH]

He's forcing his pañero Marquez to fight for the third time with Pac with the latest win with Katsidis, again im not against with Marquez but money talks its business even the last fight can't fill his own arena even with good undercards.

Before the Katsidis fight Marquez wants a 138-140 after he won, GBP and Marquez now wants to fight Pac even at WW. The funny thing is they didnt mention to strictly imply the OST, they just marketing too much Marquez for Pac asap which is opposite few months ago. I think both GBP and Marquez lost their DELICADEZA big time in this one.

See Mil was able favored Margarito right then, hes been with Robert Garcia, he will looking good at 150 etc . Now he's bashing his own compatriot like he's slow no skill etc, even sure not happy everytime with Pac wins.

Imo all answer will between Pac-Mayweather. Questions regarding the weights, ost, ,speed, prime etc. greatness of the two fighters in this era IF they met in the ring.

[miron_lang]

He's forcing his pañero Marquez to fight for the third time with Pac with the latest win with Katsidis, again im not against with Marquez but money talks its business even the last fight can't fill his own arena even with good undercards.

Before the Katsidis fight Marquez wants a 138-140 after he won, GBP and Marquez now wants to fight Pac even at WW. The funny thing is they didnt mention to strictly imply the OST, they just marketing too much Marquez for Pac asap which is opposite few months ago. I think both GBP and Marquez lost their DELICADEZA big time in this one.

See Mil was able favored Margarito right then, hes been with Robert Garcia, he will looking good at 150 etc . Now he's bashing his own compatriot like he's slow no skill etc, even sure not happy everytime with Pac wins.

Imo all answer will between Pac-Mayweather. Questions regarding the weights, ost, ,speed, prime etc. greatness of the two fighters in this era IF they met in the ring.

Mate

Milmascaras is not Mexican, He's Spaniard.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

who was the last fast, in his prime fighter pacquiao fought who also wasn't coming off a loss? nuff said!

You or somebody else would still find fault in him after say, winning against Berto (you do want him to fight manny right?) if ever that fight gets made and manny plows through him. No I'm not saying it's gonna happen 100%. Just an example.

Here's another example that did happen recently. Before the pac margo fight, you favored margarito to win against manny. Yet after his win against margo, you're still saying he's a fraud/protected fighter. Where is the consistency in that? So even if he demolishes a fighter you picked would win against him you still won't give him props?

What happened to milmas after this comment? He seems to have disappeared from this thread. Just like when I asked him in another thread to provide a link that JMM asked Chris John for a rematch, he also disappeared from that thread. If he is to pop-up again in this thread, maybe he can respond to those.

Whoever Manny fights who doesn't have the name Floyd Mayweather, he will be criticized for it. He has been through a lot of wars already and his legacy has been secured. He could retire right now if Floyd is not going to fight him or he can be excused if he goes on fighting just to pad his pockets. People will watch him whoever he fights.

I just wished that he will fight JMM by next year but I won't blame him if that fight doesn't get made.

[Rantcatrat]

well what about a timothy bradley, amir khan, alexander, andre berto, alfredo angulo, yuri foreman, canelo alvarez, erislandy lara, or if he wants to really get kinky, sergio martinez at 154? besides, isn't pacquiao the defending WBC 154 jr. middleweight champion? martinez already said he would go down to 154 to fight pacquiao so what's up?

or is it maybe that the above mentioned fighters are still young, in their prime and would pose a serious threat to the anointed one? hmmm!

As a fan. I would love that. this would be my preference

Berto and Bradley 2011 and then
Alvarez and maybe Sergio in 2012 if he is up for it.


but Pacquiao is 32 with 57 fights on the record. Other notable retired fighters didnt even have that many fights.

I wont hate him if he chose to have a little break in his next fight.

Saul Alvarez and Erislany Lara are way too green and not known names. Yuri Foreman is a decent point, but he's not as good of an opponent as Tim Bradley.

If PAC beats Saul they'll say Saul is too green, if he destroys Bradley, Bradley is too small even though actually Bradley is slightly bigger than PAC. There's always excuses.

No one who isn't an idiot would say that Bradley was too small for Pacquiao, they'd simply say Pacquiao was too good, which is likely the truth.

Can someone explain why Tim Bradley won't be the most logical opponent (outside PBF) for Pacquiao if he wins in January?

He isn't too green. He's strung quite a few solid wins together. He's proven at 147, he's african american, he's been on HBO a bunch. What is there not to like in him as an opponent?

Pacquiao is maxing out at 147. I don't think he'll fight any more junior middleweights. Of the noteworthy people at 147 or 140, besides Tim Bradley and Amir Khan, there is only Andre Berto.

[Pavlik]

well what about a timothy bradley, amir khan, alexander, andre berto, alfredo angulo, yuri foreman, canelo alvarez, erislandy lara, or if he wants to really get kinky, sergio martinez at 154? besides, isn't pacquiao the defending WBC 154 jr. middleweight champion? martinez already said he would go down to 154 to fight pacquiao so what's up?

or is it maybe that the above mentioned fighters are still young, in their prime and would pose a serious threat to the anointed one? hmmm!

As a fan. I would love that. this would be my preference

Berto and Bradley 2011 and then
Alvarez and maybe Sergio in 2012 if he is up for it.


but Pacquiao is 32 with 57 fights on the record. Other notable retired fighters didnt even have that many fights.

I wont hate him if he chose to have a little break in his next fight.

Saul Alvarez and Erislany Lara are way too green and not known names. Yuri Foreman is a decent point, but he's not as good of an opponent as Tim Bradley.

If PAC beats Saul they'll say Saul is too green, if he destroys Bradley, Bradley is too small even though actually Bradley is slightly bigger than PAC. There's always excuses.

No one who isn't an idiot would say that Bradley was too small for Pacquiao, they'd simply say Pacquiao was too good, which is likely the truth.

Can someone explain why Tim Bradley won't be the most logical opponent (outside PBF) for Pacquiao if he wins in January?

He isn't too green. He's strung quite a few solid wins together. He's proven at 147, he's african american, he's been on HBO a bunch. What is there not to like in him as an opponent?

Pacquiao is maxing out at 147. I don't think he'll fight any more junior middleweights. Of the noteworthy people at 147 or 140, besides Tim Bradley and Amir Khan, there is only Andre Berto.

In all honesty this is the more fair fight for PAC out there somebody close to his weight, maybe with a little tweaking in the promotions Bradley can help sell this fight and not just rely on PAC's name. The only reason I see Arum pushing for the Mosely fight because of 1 obvious reason money. If it was just PAC, he's not scared of anybody it's just not his type of calling somebody out.