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    Default Re: Martinez-Cotto talks off

    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Live View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Martinez, in my humble opinion, gains absolutely nothing, in boxing terms for fighting a shot Miguel Cotto at LM or Middle. Purely a "cash in" situation and nothing more. Martinez is on top of the world, Cotto has been totally and utterly battered half to death in recent fights. Martinez starches Cotto inside 6 and proves only that Cotto's face can look terrible when he's taken one too many shots.
    Besides Pacman, there's no one else that can do justice to martinez career right now. Unless he step up to supermiddle. Ward or Dirrell. And we all know Dirrell is past his 90 days of rest(ha ha ha).

    Who else should he fight? Martinez's camp needs to push the envelop and get fights now knowing Martinez is already alluding to retiring.
    Inside the last year or two, boxing has become all about Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather and who they are gonna fight. So you say that the only decent fight out there for Martinez, if not Pac or Mayweather is a fight against Cotto. This, IMO, discredits lots of other fighters out there, and boxing for me does not revolve around two fighters. On the Pound 4 Pound list it might do. There are plenty of fighters out there to face, although they might not be million dollar fights, if we take that stance that a fight is only worth having its its worth all the Benjamins, then that will certainly be of great detriment to boxing as a whole, as it just freezes out anyone who isn't on top of the world.

    Light Middle:
    Angulo
    Dzinziruk
    Bundrage
    Rhodes
    Lara
    Konecny
    Mundine
    Martirosyan
    Latimore

    Middleweight:
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    Pirog
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    Default Re: Martinez-Cotto talks off

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ant Live View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Martinez, in my humble opinion, gains absolutely nothing, in boxing terms for fighting a shot Miguel Cotto at LM or Middle. Purely a "cash in" situation and nothing more. Martinez is on top of the world, Cotto has been totally and utterly battered half to death in recent fights. Martinez starches Cotto inside 6 and proves only that Cotto's face can look terrible when he's taken one too many shots.
    Besides Pacman, there's no one else that can do justice to martinez career right now. Unless he step up to supermiddle. Ward or Dirrell. And we all know Dirrell is past his 90 days of rest(ha ha ha).

    Who else should he fight? Martinez's camp needs to push the envelop and get fights now knowing Martinez is already alluding to retiring.
    Inside the last year or two, boxing has become all about Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather and who they are gonna fight. So you say that the only decent fight out there for Martinez, if not Pac or Mayweather is a fight against Cotto. This, IMO, discredits lots of other fighters out there, and boxing for me does not revolve around two fighters. On the Pound 4 Pound list it might do. There are plenty of fighters out there to face, although they might not be million dollar fights, if we take that stance that a fight is only worth having its its worth all the Benjamins, then that will certainly be of great detriment to boxing as a whole, as it just freezes out anyone who isn't on top of the world.

    Light Middle:

    Angulo
    Dzinziruk
    Bundrage
    Rhodes
    Lara
    Konecny

    Mundine
    Martirosyan
    Latimore

    Middleweight:
    Sylvester
    Macklin
    Lee
    Pirog
    Zbik

    Chavez
    Lemiuez
    Guerrero
    Proksa
    Ouma
    Mundine was just knocked out by the Australian Contender winner. He's done. Angulo already declined an ( Alfredo Angulo Shuns $750,000 Offer to Fight Sergio Martinez -- Boxing FanHouse ) offer to fight Martinez. I can't find the link but Arum said Chavez Jr. isn't ready for that fight - and I can't blame him. He'd be annihilated. Guerrero and Lemiuex aren't ready for Martinez yet. Lemiuex hasn't even had one big win on his resume and Ishe Smith gave Guerrero all he could handle. They are just not there yet.

    From the rest of your list, Pirog is a good fight. Zbik is his mandatory and undefeated, I can see the point in that. Lee isn't (and probably won't ever be) ready for Martinez, but Emmanuel Stewart likes the fight, probably because it will be the biggest pay day, but strangely, Lee turned down a fight with Pirog recently (?). I think Lee should have a rematch with Vera and win that first.

    Back to point of post, I'm split on this. 2.5M would be Martinez's biggest pay day against a fighter that he should beat. Cotto is a well-known name and would put him even more into the spotlight. Is he really going to be paid more to fight Zbik or Lee or Pirog? I doubt it. Maybe Dibella thinks he can get more money if he holds out. Honestly, I really doubt Bruce Trampler and Bob Arum agree to letting Cotto fight Martinez. They can make more money having him fight Margarito in a rematch without bricks, and in my opinion, there is less risk.

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    Default Re: Martinez-Cotto talks off

    Good. He'll get a good stay busy fight. How about Cintron rematch. See if he can beat him a third time.

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    Default Re: Martinez-Cotto talks off

    To me it seems like Arum is only going to be putting on fights with guys under Top Rank. Either your with Top rank, or get bought out, this is very bad for boxing.

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