Watched Pacquiao-Diaz... I really want him to fight Martinez

[Rantcatrat]

Taeth, I do too. Two top fight p4p guys is always great for the sport especially if PBF v. Pac can't be made. But, let's be honest, you aren't a big fan of Martinez. I've never read a positive post about him from you.

Paul Williams dominated Winky Wright. He dominated Verno Phillips and Carlos Quintana and beat pre-Shane, Antonio Margarito. Sergio Martinez knocked Tall Paul out cold. You have to give him credit for that.

Pacquiao at his biggest really is a small welterweight. Martinez isn't Paul Williams - he's a thinker and he'll use his advantages. He'd pot shot and fight from a distance. Also, he has one punch KO power against middleweights with proven chins. It's a dangerous fight for Pac. I think it is more dangerous than Shane or Berto. Still, Pacquiao should be favored going into it. I'd give Pac more credit for taking this fight than for taking a fight with Shane or Berto or Marquez as long as the fight was at 155 or above.

Anyway, the fight won't ever happen. Here is Freddie Roach on it: Pacquiao vs Martinez won't happen - Roach | ABS-CBN News | Latest Philippine Headlines, Breaking News, Video, Analysis, Features

"Roach vowed to keep Pacquiao fighting at the welterweight limit where the boxing superstar is more 'comfortable' in.
If Martinez refuses to go down to 147 lbs., then 'the Pacquiao fight won't happen because he's too small.' "

Hey Taeth, while we are on the topic, who do you favor between Cotto and Martinez at 155?

it depends, I never felt Cotto was shot until I saw him against FOreman, I honestly think Foreman was getting the better of him in some of the rounds and looked better than him in spots.

Based on styles I would pick Cotto over Martinez, and if Cotto was closer to his best I think he would beat Martinez because as he showed early against Pacquiao, he is actually pretty quick himself, and he can deal with guys that have better speed than him. A guy like Martinez IMO would have a hard time hitting Cotto harder than COtto would be hitting him. I would see COtto working inside and stopping a guy like Martinez to the body, I always believed he woudl do the same to Williams who like Martinez gives me a feeling being too dangly"best word I can think of". I disagree with people that say Martinez is very coordinated, I think he is athletic and could be coordinated with a better trainer or more training, but he always seems a little off balance to me.

As for Paul Williams, Verno Phillips isn't that impressive to me, I only give Williams credit really against Margarito and Wright despite the fact he was watched up and didn't show up. I actually remember the first fight Paul had against Quintana because he was clearly outboxed by a guy who wasn't really that impressive. I think Quintana is a good b level fighter, but I think that fight he proved so was WIlliams. THe second fight Williams landed the right blow at the right time.

I've just read about Roach saying he is willing to have Pacuqiao fight WIlliams at 154-155ish, we will see. I think Pacquiao beats up Martinez if he stays at his current weight.

When Cotto and Martinez fight, Martinez will dominate. We'll talk then.

You should give Martinez a little more credit than you do in my opinion. In one year, he beat Kermit Cintron, Paul Williams, and Kelly Pavlik. He also has the knockout of the year and he's the linear middleweight champion. He's not quite as polished as the other top p4p guys because he doesn't have Nacho Baristain, Freddie Roach, Jeff Mayweather or Emmanual Stewart in his corner, which makes what he has done even that much more impressive. He also doesn't have financial backing of Richard Shaeffer, Bob Arum, Al Hayman, or Frank Warren. Again, making his accomplishments that much more impressive. Moreover, he started boxing at age 20. If anything, the "rawness" of his talent should impress you. Imagine what he could have done if he started earlier and had a top tier trainer in his corner.