De La Hoya: Pacquiao makes fighters lose on the scales 1st

[Gandalf]

I agree with GB. If you deflect a question with another question then you don't really have much of a debate. If someone is going to avoid your question by asking another question then you might as well ask them another question back or even repeat your own original question. Maybe they would just repeat their question or else ask another one, but at the end of the day the discussion is effectively over. Who wants to listen to a bunch of people asking questions, but never actually answering anything? That isn't debating at all and indicates an inability to answer the question or at the least a refusal to engage in proper debate. It is silly.

[Kev]

I agree with GB. If you deflect a question with another question then you don't really have much of a debate. If someone is going to avoid your question by asking another question then you might as well ask them another question back or even repeat your own original question. Maybe they would just repeat their question or else ask another one, but at the end of the day the discussion is effectively over. Who wants to listen to a bunch of people asking questions, but never actually answering anything? That isn't debating at all and indicates an inability to answer the question or at the least a refusal to engage in proper debate. It is silly.

Well in that case get back to your wikileaks thread and answer my qestions!

1.How have Israel been made to look bad by the wikileak revelations,give examples.
2.What revelelations about America have been damaging for them? I would argue that the leaks are mostly mundane apart from the insight into the true sentiment in the middle east, which is that the Arab nations hate each other as much as they hate the Jews, and that they regard Iran, NOT Israel as the biggest threat to the region.
3. You dismissed the views of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Egypt and Syria relating to Iran as being irrelevent because they are dictatorships and not democracies. What true democracies are there in the Middle East? I can only think of one...........but you they hate them worst of all

[Gandalf]

I agree with GB. If you deflect a question with another question then you don't really have much of a debate. If someone is going to avoid your question by asking another question then you might as well ask them another question back or even repeat your own original question. Maybe they would just repeat their question or else ask another one, but at the end of the day the discussion is effectively over. Who wants to listen to a bunch of people asking questions, but never actually answering anything? That isn't debating at all and indicates an inability to answer the question or at the least a refusal to engage in proper debate. It is silly.

Well in that case get back to your wikileaks thread and answer my qestions!

1.How have Israel been made to look bad by the wikileak revelations,give examples.
2.What revelelations about America have been damaging for them? I would argue that the leaks are mostly mundane apart from the insight into the true sentiment in the middle east, which is that the Arab nations hate each other as much as they hate the Jews, and that they regard Iran, NOT Israel as the biggest threat to the region.
3. You dismissed the views of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Egypt and Syria relating to Iran as being irrelevent because they are dictatorships and not democracies. What true democracies are there in the Middle East? I can only think of one...........but you they hate them worst of all

I have just written up a fairly substantial response in the appropriate thread, though I didn't see this post so maybe didn't explain everything. Questions, bloody questions. In future I am just going to counter you with yet more questions! If it's good enough for Jesus....

[the_PRODIGY]

C'mon people.

CATCHWEIGHT IS NOT AN ISSUE BETWEEN PACQUIAO AND MARQUEZ.

They have fought before and it is obvious they are of the same size.

The bout against Margarito was a LMW fight and Pacquiao didn't even weighed as a WW.

So as for Marquez-Pacquiao III, for fucckkk's sake let's get it on!
Be it at 140, 147, or 154..Marquez can weigh whatever weight he wants to put on.

Yeah yeah he did not look good at 140..but he was against Floyd!! and like I said, he doesn't need to put on any extra weight against Pac if he wants to..the important thing is he can shape up to his best form. 135 is fine. And so does Pacquiao. We just want two fighters at their best physical condition.

Why the hell demand the P4P king to go down in weight? Is he afraid of the 142-144 version of Pacquiao? Man up. Man up Marquez. No overpricing. No weight demands. You're not in position to do so.