Here's how I see it...

[El Kabong]

Handspeed alone won't get you a W vs Pac. Berto is a small welterweight and I think he's primed to go up vs a big welterweight and get bullied into submission. There was talk of a fight vs Cotto some time ago and I just don't see Andre handling that kind of fighter all that well, it would be Cotto-Judah all over again.

As for Paul Williams, he just got sparked out cold...I don't think he'll ever be the same psychologically or physically in the ring. If you get 1 concussion the next is easier, and the one after that even easier...he could turn into a very chinny fighter because of that KO.

[Pavlik]

I love all the love for PAC in this thread but are you guys just so underestimating Berto
The kid is like a young Mosely with better mobility.

[Pavlik]

Handspeed alone won't get you a W vs Pac. Berto is a small welterweight and I think he's primed to go up vs a big welterweight and get bullied into submission. There was talk of a fight vs Cotto some time ago and I just don't see Andre handling that kind of fighter all that well, it would be Cotto-Judah all over again.

As for Paul Williams, he just got sparked out cold...I don't think he'll ever be the same psychologically or physically in the ring. If you get 1 concussion the next is easier, and the one after that even easier...he could turn into a very chinny fighter because of that KO.

el kabong, i think berto weighed 160 lbs vs hernandez at fight night i think that's a pretty good sized welter considering his speed/power. this kid is scary imo.

[El Kabong]

Handspeed alone won't get you a W vs Pac. Berto is a small welterweight and I think he's primed to go up vs a big welterweight and get bullied into submission. There was talk of a fight vs Cotto some time ago and I just don't see Andre handling that kind of fighter all that well, it would be Cotto-Judah all over again.

As for Paul Williams, he just got sparked out cold...I don't think he'll ever be the same psychologically or physically in the ring. If you get 1 concussion the next is easier, and the one after that even easier...he could turn into a very chinny fighter because of that KO.

el kabong, i think berto weighed 160 lbs vs hernandez at fight night i think that's a pretty good sized welter considering his speed/power. this kid is scary imo.

He's short he's fought crap opponents and he's got a dodgey chin. You seriously think there's someone not named Floyd Mayweather Jr. that will have quicker hands than Manny AND be able to hurt him?

[Master]

I see Pac beating them all except Sergio.

[MMASUX]

Floyd beats him, and Martinez beats him at 154.

[Chino]

As for Paul Williams, he just got sparked out cold...I don't think he'll ever be the same psychologically or physically in the ring. If you get 1 concussion the next is easier, and the one after that even easier...he could turn into a very chinny fighter because of that KO.

Reminds me of Roy Jones. It was quite a shock when he lost his first fight by KO. After that, his chin got exposed and look what happened in his other loses.

[El Kabong]

As for Paul Williams, he just got sparked out cold...I don't think he'll ever be the same psychologically or physically in the ring. If you get 1 concussion the next is easier, and the one after that even easier...he could turn into a very chinny fighter because of that KO.

Reminds me of Roy Jones. It was quite a shock when he lost his first fight by KO. After that, his chin got exposed and look what happened in his other loses.

That and the guy will just have a mental problem accepting a punch from now on...he'll get clipped, he'll panic, the adrenaline will start pumping, and when he gets to the fight or flight reaction, his body is just going to give up on him and the next thing you know he'll be covering up, trying to run away, or trying to tie up his opponent.

The loss will have a big affect on Paul because he had taken pride in his chin for many years, he had bragged about sparring with Glenn Johnson et al and taking their best shots....now in my opinion he'll have to overhaul his entire fighting style because he's not going to like getting hit anymore (not that he was thrilled about it to begin with, but he accepted it well).

Of course, then again he could recover just fine from this, but I really don't see that happening

[J_Undisputed]

As for Paul Williams, he just got sparked out cold...I don't think he'll ever be the same psychologically or physically in the ring. If you get 1 concussion the next is easier, and the one after that even easier...he could turn into a very chinny fighter because of that KO.

Reminds me of Roy Jones. It was quite a shock when he lost his first fight by KO. After that, his chin got exposed and look what happened in his other loses.

That and the guy will just have a mental problem accepting a punch from now on...he'll get clipped, he'll panic, the adrenaline will start pumping, and when he gets to the fight or flight reaction, his body is just going to give up on him and the next thing you know he'll be covering up, trying to run away, or trying to tie up his opponent.

The loss will have a big affect on Paul because he had taken pride in his chin for many years, he had bragged about sparring with Glenn Johnson et al and taking their best shots....now in my opinion he'll have to overhaul his entire fighting style because he's not going to like getting hit anymore (not that he was thrilled about it to begin with, but he accepted it well).

Of course, then again he could recover just fine from this, but I really don't see that happening

He needs a new trainer to turn the corner on that KO. He's needed a new trainer since the Margarito fight, in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised to see Manny Steward stalk him like he did Cotto if the punisher is looking to make a change. Perhaps trying to reinvent the Tommy Hearns. Not as much one punch power, but more active.