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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs Marcos Maidana Spoliers............

    Speaking of Wlad, I think Khan can have a career similar of that to Wlad but at 140. A boxer with fantastic skills and heart but chinny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Speaking of Wlad, I think Khan can have a career similar of that to Wlad but at 140. A boxer with fantastic skills and heart but chinny.
    I dont think he can be called chinny anymore. He got caught a lot and didnt go down. Sure he ran but other fighters who would of caught the same punches would of gone down right away.

    You have a point about comparing Khan to Wlad but who wouldnt have gotten rock from those shots? Khan stayed up, IMO thats an accomplisment. Not only that he also put on a beating on Maidana and actually won the bout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Speaking of Wlad, I think Khan can have a career similar of that to Wlad but at 140. A boxer with fantastic skills and heart but chinny.
    I dont think he can be called chinny anymore. He got caught a lot and didnt go down. Sure he ran but other fighters who would of caught the same punches would of gone down right away.

    You have a point about comparing Khan to Wlad but who wouldnt have gotten rock from those shots? Khan stayed up, IMO thats an accomplisment. Not only that he also put on a beating on Maidana and actually won the bout.
    He is chinny he was rocked with every flush shot, its just he's got alot of spirit and a good heart. Which he's always showed, but that don't change the fact that he's chinny, you can't suddenly get a better chin Rain's he will always be chinny.

    Its just he's learned how to survive better, which is good for him. Terry Norris also learned this and also learned how to become a better cautious boxer.

    Both men are similar in that department, but Terry Norris is still a class above Amir Khan. And Amir Khan need's to not waste so much energy. And he needs to be able to fight a smart fight for 12 rounds. Not keep losing his concentration every time he gets hit flush. Because that will lead him to getting KO'ed.

    In truth Amir Khan showed alot of bottle to stay up, but Marcos Maidana should of had him out of there. Its just he smothered his work, Amir Khan had no legs for literally most of the later rounds.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs Marcos Maidana Spoliers............

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Speaking of Wlad, I think Khan can have a career similar of that to Wlad but at 140. A boxer with fantastic skills and heart but chinny.
    I dont think he can be called chinny anymore. He got caught a lot and didnt go down. Sure he ran but other fighters who would of caught the same punches would of gone down right away.

    You have a point about comparing Khan to Wlad but who wouldnt have gotten rock from those shots? Khan stayed up, IMO thats an accomplisment. Not only that he also put on a beating on Maidana and actually won the bout.
    He is chinny he was rocked with every flush shot, its just he's got alot of spirit and a good heart. Which he's always showed, but that don't change the fact that he's chinny, you can't suddenly get a better chin Rain's he will always be chinny.

    Its just he's learned how to survive better, which is good for him. Terry Norris also learned this and also learned how to become a better cautious boxer.

    Both men are similar in that department, but Terry Norris is still a class above Amir Khan. And Amir Khan need's to not waste so much energy. And he needs to be able to fight a smart fight for 12 rounds. Not keep losing his concentration every time he gets hit flush. Because that will lead him to getting KO'ed.

    In truth Amir Khan showed alot of bottle to stay up, but Marcos Maidana should of had him out of there. Its just he smothered his work, Amir Khan had no legs for literally most of the later rounds.
    I also think Maidana held back a little too much in the round following. He should have just gone at it 100mph in that round too. He should never have given Khan the chance to breathe. Just maybe he didn't realise just how wasted Khan was or was having a rest himself.

    If he was just a little more canny he would have got Khan out of there and that is why I want to see a rematch.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs Marcos Maidana Spoliers............

    i was a maidana fan before the fight and now after seeing him tonight against amir khan, i'm an even bigger fan of his. this fan has the biggest nuts and guts i've seen in a long time. how many fighters get up from a liver shot he took from khan. when that happened, i thought it was over but was surprised he was able to continue.

    let me say something about khan! he showed me something tonight. sure he was hurt late in the fight but he didn't crumble and kept on battling. i think he's answered his chin question tonight. maidana punches are like getting kicked by a mule. people are going to get on him for running late in the fight but he did the right thing to survive. anyways, khan showed me some heart tonight and i feel he's one of the better, younger world champions in boxing. a amir khan/timothy bradley fight would be sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Speaking of Wlad, I think Khan can have a career similar of that to Wlad but at 140. A boxer with fantastic skills and heart but chinny.
    I dont think he can be called chinny anymore. He got caught a lot and didnt go down. Sure he ran but other fighters who would of caught the same punches would of gone down right away.

    You have a point about comparing Khan to Wlad but who wouldnt have gotten rock from those shots? Khan stayed up, IMO thats an accomplisment. Not only that he also put on a beating on Maidana and actually won the bout.
    He is chinny he was rocked with every flush shot, its just he's got alot of spirit and a good heart. Which he's always showed, but that don't change the fact that he's chinny, you can't suddenly get a better chin Rain's he will always be chinny.

    Its just he's learned how to survive better, which is good for him. Terry Norris also learned this and also learned how to become a better cautious boxer.

    Both men are similar in that department, but Terry Norris is still a class above Amir Khan. And Amir Khan need's to not waste so much energy. And he needs to be able to fight a smart fight for 12 rounds. Not keep losing his concentration every time he gets hit flush. Because that will lead him to getting KO'ed.

    In truth Amir Khan showed alot of bottle to stay up, but Marcos Maidana should of had him out of there. Its just he smothered his work, Amir Khan had no legs for literally most of the later rounds.
    He took a lot of power punches and never went down. Chinny fighters would of gone down. Khan took a monster shot from prescott and got up before he was stop. Im not saying his got a great chin or he was caught cold. Im saying he got caught and just like many fighters go knocked out. Against Maidana, Im not saying his chin improve but Im saying he is not as chinny as people are saying. Maidana can hurt people we have all seen that and he drops people but he didnt drop Khan after hitting him flush about 10 times, IMO would of drop other fighters. Khan got rock but stayed up and often got himself into harms way by being too aggressive. He ran and survive but he also put on a beating on Maidana.

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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs Marcos Maidana Spoliers............

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Speaking of Wlad, I think Khan can have a career similar of that to Wlad but at 140. A boxer with fantastic skills and heart but chinny.
    I dont think he can be called chinny anymore. He got caught a lot and didnt go down. Sure he ran but other fighters who would of caught the same punches would of gone down right away.

    You have a point about comparing Khan to Wlad but who wouldnt have gotten rock from those shots? Khan stayed up, IMO thats an accomplisment. Not only that he also put on a beating on Maidana and actually won the bout.
    He is chinny he was rocked with every flush shot, its just he's got alot of spirit and a good heart. Which he's always showed, but that don't change the fact that he's chinny, you can't suddenly get a better chin Rain's he will always be chinny.

    Its just he's learned how to survive better, which is good for him. Terry Norris also learned this and also learned how to become a better cautious boxer.

    Both men are similar in that department, but Terry Norris is still a class above Amir Khan. And Amir Khan need's to not waste so much energy. And he needs to be able to fight a smart fight for 12 rounds. Not keep losing his concentration every time he gets hit flush. Because that will lead him to getting KO'ed.

    In truth Amir Khan showed alot of bottle to stay up, but Marcos Maidana should of had him out of there. Its just he smothered his work, Amir Khan had no legs for literally most of the later rounds.
    I've just re-watched the fight stone cold sober.

    I actually had Khan winning by 2 points in the end. Made a few observations on his punch resistance. All in all, you have to say it is fairly good at 140, and probably better than it was at 135. The problem with Khan is, because he is tall for a 140 fighter, he will always be open to big looping shots, and i think almost every time he has been hurt in the past, it has been because of a looping hook landing high on the side of his head.

    This again happened in round 10. It takes his legs away from him. Same thing happened against Prescott, and the same thing happened against Limond and Gomez. When he takes a shot clean on the chin, he actually deals with it pretty well, as he did against Maidana.

    The other thing i noticed is Khan's clumsiness can make it look like he is in more trouble than he actually is. His legs cross over when he's moving in reverse, which is something which shouldn't technically happen, and his chin leans over his lead foot at times. He also doesn't took his elbows in so well, and it can lead to him looking a little dis-organised when he's under pressure. Obviously because of his well documented lack of punch resistance, when he gets tagged and starts going backwards, the situation can actually look much worse as the crowd and commentators react to it.

    There were times in this fight where he took some very clean shots, but actually recovered from them very quickly, yet Jim Watt was having kittens.
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    Default Re: Amir Khan vs Marcos Maidana Spoliers............

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Speaking of Wlad, I think Khan can have a career similar of that to Wlad but at 140. A boxer with fantastic skills and heart but chinny.
    I dont think he can be called chinny anymore. He got caught a lot and didnt go down. Sure he ran but other fighters who would of caught the same punches would of gone down right away.

    You have a point about comparing Khan to Wlad but who wouldnt have gotten rock from those shots? Khan stayed up, IMO thats an accomplisment. Not only that he also put on a beating on Maidana and actually won the bout.
    He is chinny he was rocked with every flush shot, its just he's got alot of spirit and a good heart. Which he's always showed, but that don't change the fact that he's chinny, you can't suddenly get a better chin Rain's he will always be chinny.

    Its just he's learned how to survive better, which is good for him. Terry Norris also learned this and also learned how to become a better cautious boxer.

    Both men are similar in that department, but Terry Norris is still a class above Amir Khan. And Amir Khan need's to not waste so much energy. And he needs to be able to fight a smart fight for 12 rounds. Not keep losing his concentration every time he gets hit flush. Because that will lead him to getting KO'ed.

    In truth Amir Khan showed alot of bottle to stay up, but Marcos Maidana should of had him out of there. Its just he smothered his work, Amir Khan had no legs for literally most of the later rounds.
    I've just re-watched the fight stone cold sober.

    I actually had Khan winning by 2 points in the end. Made a few observations on his punch resistance. All in all, you have to say it is fairly good at 140, and probably better than it was at 135. The problem with Khan is, because he is tall for a 140 fighter, he will always be open to big looping shots, and i think almost every time he has been hurt in the past, it has been because of a looping hook landing high on the side of his head.

    This again happened in round 10. It takes his legs away from him. Same thing happened against Prescott, and the same thing happened against Limond and Gomez. When he takes a shot clean on the chin, he actually deals with it pretty well, as he did against Maidana.

    The other thing i noticed is Khan's clumsiness can make it look like he is in more trouble than he actually is. His legs cross over when he's moving in reverse, which is something which shouldn't technically happen, and his chin leans over his lead foot at times. He also doesn't took his elbows in so well, and it can lead to him looking a little dis-organised when he's under pressure. Obviously because of his well documented lack of punch resistance, when he gets tagged and starts going backwards, the situation can actually look much worse as the crowd and commentators react to it.

    There were times in this fight where he took some very clean shots, but actually recovered from them very quickly, yet Jim Watt was having kittens.

    Yeah I agree. He took some big flush head shots on round 3, 6, 7 and 10 and aside from the big punch in round 10 he took them well. Ironically, if he was the underdog and didn't have a reputation for having a weak chin everyone would be praising his chin and asking what the hell kept him on his feet taking punch after punch after punch in the 10th.

    I guess most of us probably think of Maidana being as tough as nails, yet he was floored 3 times by Ortiz and would have been stopped by Amir in round 1 had that body shot landed 20 seconds earlier.

    I watched it again today and actually feel really positive about Amir's performance.

    I truly think he can hang with anyone in the world.Doesn't mean I think he will beat everybody but right now he is absolutely as likely to become king of the 135-140 class as Bradley, Alexander, Marquez or anybody else. I'd have him (slightly) favourite in all fights.

    I also think he could be stopped by all of them too, which is what makes him so exciting.

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