well KHAN sure knows how to RUN... Run Khan Run....that's what I learned tonight.

[Fenster]

Why are people complaining about the point deduction? He elbowed the ref for fucks sake. He's lucky he didn't get slung out.

Had the blatant elbow split Khan's head open Maidana would have been DQ'd.

He would have got away with that with most of the more competent referees. From what I have been reading on the forums most think the deduction was flawed and I am in total agreement. A warning would have been enough. However, IF he had hit Khan in the face then for sure take away the point.

Having said that, as one of Khan's most vociferous critics, I too would like to come out openly and say that I too have been won over somewhat because of this fight. I have always said I want to see him in there with a puncher and he did that. It wasn't perfect, but he did take a lot of clean punches in there and that shot in the 10th might very well have been the end, but he stuck in there and wouldn't let himself go down. I wanted him to, but he didn't. Khan has heart. He might not have the chin, but he has the heart to stand up when the chin has been checked.

I cannot call myself a fan, but I give respect when I think it has been earned and Khan earned a lot in this fight. I will always criticise the Barrera fight and the pointless matchups like Salita, but this was better from Khan and when a fighter goes to the well and wins you have to give credit. At the same time though, I think Maidana caused most of the damage and for that he deserves a lot of credit too. Khan was the obvious favourite and yet Maidana showed that as crude slugger he could deal with that movement and speed fairly well. And he deserves his share of respect.

That's because there are a lot of stupid and uninformed Khan haters on the internet Miles. It was an intentional foul. Are you, the great moral guardian of integrity and fair conduct actually saying that a person should only be punished for an intentional misdeed if they successfully pull it off? Surely not!

What about a politician who gets caught when he falsely claims for a mortgage allowance on a property he has already cleared the mortgage on, or an angry student who hurls a fire exstinguisher from the top of a building at a police officer below but misses. Should they be let off because their intentional crimes were unsuccessful?

Oh the hypocrisy

lol,

If Khan had thrown the elbow miles would be outraged that Cortez hadn't chucked him out the fight. And would be ranting and raving about Khan being such a despicable human being.

[Kev]

Why are people complaining about the point deduction? He elbowed the ref for fucks sake. He's lucky he didn't get slung out.

Had the blatant elbow split Khan's head open Maidana would have been DQ'd.

He would have got away with that with most of the more competent referees. From what I have been reading on the forums most think the deduction was flawed and I am in total agreement. A warning would have been enough. However, IF he had hit Khan in the face then for sure take away the point.

Having said that, as one of Khan's most vociferous critics, I too would like to come out openly and say that I too have been won over somewhat because of this fight. I have always said I want to see him in there with a puncher and he did that. It wasn't perfect, but he did take a lot of clean punches in there and that shot in the 10th might very well have been the end, but he stuck in there and wouldn't let himself go down. I wanted him to, but he didn't. Khan has heart. He might not have the chin, but he has the heart to stand up when the chin has been checked.

I cannot call myself a fan, but I give respect when I think it has been earned and Khan earned a lot in this fight. I will always criticise the Barrera fight and the pointless matchups like Salita, but this was better from Khan and when a fighter goes to the well and wins you have to give credit. At the same time though, I think Maidana caused most of the damage and for that he deserves a lot of credit too. Khan was the obvious favourite and yet Maidana showed that as crude slugger he could deal with that movement and speed fairly well. And he deserves his share of respect.

That's because there are a lot of stupid and uninformed Khan haters on the internet Miles. It was an intentional foul. Are you, the great moral guardian of integrity and fair conduct actually saying that a person should only be punished for an intentional misdeed if they successfully pull it off? Surely not!

What about a politician who gets caught when he falsely claims for a mortgage allowance on a property he has already cleared the mortgage on, or an angry student who hurls a fire exstinguisher from the top of a building at a police officer below but misses. Should they be let off because their intentional crimes were unsuccessful?

Oh the hypocrisy

lol,

If Khan had thrown the elbow miles would be outraged that Cortez hadn't chucked him out the fight. And would be ranting and raving about Khan being such a despicable human being.

He'd see it as a sign of his moral decline since moving to America and probably even mixing with zionists over there.

[Memphis]

I dont like Cortez but I think he did Maidana a few favours also in that fight. Maidana carried on clubbing after a break was called several times and nowt happened, swings and roundabout init.

If you intentionally try and elbow someone in the face hitting the ref to boot have you really got an arguement against having a point taken away?

[Rantcatrat]

I agree with Miles. I thought Cortez shouldn't have deducted a point for the elbow that him. I also thought Cortez did a crappy job in general with the fight.

[Gandalf]

I dont like Cortez but I think he did Maidana a few favours also in that fight. Maidana carried on clubbing after a break was called several times and nowt happened, swings and roundabout init.

If you intentionally try and elbow someone in the face hitting the ref to boot have you really got an arguement against having a point taken away?

I would also question when the breaks were called. A lot of them were far too early. Cortez was just far too inconsistent. He took an age to get involved when Khan was twisting Maidana's arms late and yet would jump in just as they were getting close early on. It was strange officiating. Maidana just wanted the chance to get his punches off when in close.

[Fenster]

I laughed when I saw the elbow because Maidana had been caught bang to rights. If Cortez had seen the blantant maneuvre he'd have probably warned him but the fact it HIT him. Fucks sake... can't believe so many people think taking a point was a wrong 'un

[Gandalf]

Why are people complaining about the point deduction? He elbowed the ref for fucks sake. He's lucky he didn't get slung out.

Had the blatant elbow split Khan's head open Maidana would have been DQ'd.

He would have got away with that with most of the more competent referees. From what I have been reading on the forums most think the deduction was flawed and I am in total agreement. A warning would have been enough. However, IF he had hit Khan in the face then for sure take away the point.

Having said that, as one of Khan's most vociferous critics, I too would like to come out openly and say that I too have been won over somewhat because of this fight. I have always said I want to see him in there with a puncher and he did that. It wasn't perfect, but he did take a lot of clean punches in there and that shot in the 10th might very well have been the end, but he stuck in there and wouldn't let himself go down. I wanted him to, but he didn't. Khan has heart. He might not have the chin, but he has the heart to stand up when the chin has been checked.

I cannot call myself a fan, but I give respect when I think it has been earned and Khan earned a lot in this fight. I will always criticise the Barrera fight and the pointless matchups like Salita, but this was better from Khan and when a fighter goes to the well and wins you have to give credit. At the same time though, I think Maidana caused most of the damage and for that he deserves a lot of credit too. Khan was the obvious favourite and yet Maidana showed that as crude slugger he could deal with that movement and speed fairly well. And he deserves his share of respect.

That's because there are a lot of stupid and uninformed Khan haters on the internet Miles. It was an intentional foul. Are you, the great moral guardian of integrity and fair conduct actually saying that a person should only be punished for an intentional misdeed if they successfully pull it off? Surely not!

What about a politician who gets caught when he falsely claims for a mortgage allowance on a property he has already cleared the mortgage on, or an angry student who hurls a fire exstinguisher from the top of a building at a police officer below but misses. Should they be let off because their intentional crimes were unsuccessful?

Oh the hypocrisy

lol,

If Khan had thrown the elbow miles would be outraged that Cortez hadn't chucked him out the fight. And would be ranting and raving about Khan being such a despicable human being.

He'd see it as a sign of his moral decline since moving to America and probably even mixing with zionists over there.

If Khan had done it my response would have been much the same. If it hadn't of made an impact on Maidana then how could you be outraged? No fighter should be penalised for slightly losing his cool the one time. Even Tyson was given a second chance to munch on an ear, this was hardly that.

[generalbulldog]

Hey Miles, if Mike Tyson hadn't bitten a chunk out of Holyfield's ear and there were only teethmarks on his ear instead, do you feel Tyson should be given a free pass? Because from my understanding, you're basically trying to say, no harm no foul. Am I right?

What about a fighter that intentionally tries to low blow the other fighter but hits his hip or thigh instead? Is that no harm no foul also?

[Gandalf]

Hey Miles, if Mike Tyson hadn't bitten a chunk out of Holyfield's ear and there were only teethmarks on his ear instead, do you feel Tyson should be given a free pass? Because from my understanding, you're basically trying to say, no harm no foul. Am I right?

What about a fighter that intentionally tries to low blow the other fighter but hits his hip or thigh instead? Is that no harm no foul also?

What I am saying is that Maidana didn't land a foul on Amir Khan. We cannot deny that Tyson tried to eat Evander Holyfield, but more astonishingly he WAS given a second chance to prove his cannibalistic skills.

In terms of the low blow, how many fighters are given a second chance after commiting an ACTUAL low blow? Quite a lot by my reckoning.

Maidana attempted a foul, missed and was docked without a warning. No second chance. Cortez was again caught in the moment and acted on it. It was weak officiating and it is not as though it is a new thing.

How would Steve Smoger have responded. I bet it would have been quite different. A good warning, a message saying "don't try that again!" and on the fight goes.

[Fenster]

Mills Lane didn't chuck Tyson out the first bite because he bottled it. If I remember right, Lane took forever checking with other officials before letting it go on.

Anyway, according to Miles, any fighter should be allowed to attempt blatant elbows, and land them on the ref, without any action being taken. Deary deary me...

[Gandalf]

Mills Lane didn't chuck Tyson out the first bite because he bottled it. If I remember right, Lane took forever checking with other officials before letting it go on.

Anyway, according to Miles, any fighter should be allowed to attempt blatant elbows, and land them on the ref, without any action being taken. Deary deary me...

No, I didn't say that. I said a strong warning would have been perfectly justified. I also agreed that if Khan had been hit then a point deduction had some justification. I also agree with you that if Khan was hit and cut in some way as to discontinue the fight, then a DQ would be acceptable.

But it was nothing and therefore we should had a fight rather than the Cortez show.

These are not particularly outrageous viewpoints to have.

[generalbulldog]

Hey Miles, if Mike Tyson hadn't bitten a chunk out of Holyfield's ear and there were only teethmarks on his ear instead, do you feel Tyson should be given a free pass? Because from my understanding, you're basically trying to say, no harm no foul. Am I right?

What about a fighter that intentionally tries to low blow the other fighter but hits his hip or thigh instead? Is that no harm no foul also?

What I am saying is that Maidana didn't land a foul on Amir Khan. We cannot deny that Tyson tried to eat Evander Holyfield, but more astonishingly he WAS given a second chance to prove his cannibalistic skills.

In terms of the low blow, how many fighters are given a second chance after commiting an ACTUAL low blow? Quite a lot by my reckoning.

Maidana attempted a foul, missed and was docked without a warning. No second chance. Cortez was again caught in the moment and acted on it. It was weak officiating and it is not as though it is a new thing.

How would Steve Smoger have responded. I bet it would have been quite different. A good warning, a message saying "don't try that again!" and on the fight goes.

That's the point he attempted to and got docked a point, that's his punishment in the ring. Hell in the real world crimes with the word attempt carries severe penalty and you're going to have to pay the price or at least in the US, such as attempted murder.

[Kev]

I'd be interested to know what Miles thoughts on the Eubank Sherry 'headbutt' incident.

Khan could have reacted like this



Fast forward to 6 minutes.

For the record Eubank was docked two points. I don't think the 'headbutt' did any damage whatsoever and Sherry such a slimy cunt. The fight went to a technical decision and Eubank thankfully scraped through on a split decision.

The point is, technical fouls can land you in deep shit.....

[0james0]

Did that headbutt even connect?!

Shame they couldn't have stopped the fight that long for Dirrell.