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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    time and again i read how close and controvesial that decision was

    close? calzaghe landed 27 times as many punches as hopkins

    ok maybe you pick the best 3 punches of the fight and they would all be hopkins but those were the only 3 punches he landed

    calzaghe had a bad start and hopkins may have even won the first 4, after that it was clear calzaghi all the way

    the only thing controversial about it was that it was a spilt decision and not unanimous
    There's no way im rewatching this fight again, twice was enough for me. I had B-Hop winning. He landed the cleaner more effective punches, and had a very good start with the two point round.

    I didn't see Joe Calzaghe landing anything clean, most of his punches were blocked, slaps, or wern't landing that effectively. From my memory i can't remember Joe Calzaghe landing an eye catching blow all night.

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    Very difficult fight to watch but at first I had Calzaghe on first viewing for forcing the fight but there is a very intersting angle of the fight on youtube where Hopkins lands all the big shots in the fight. I will try finding it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Very difficult fight to watch but at first I had Calzaghe on first viewing for forcing the fight but there is a very intersting angle of the fight on youtube where Hopkins lands all the big shots in the fight. I will try finding it now.
    Yea thats why he won IMO, i mean its not all about volume. It's about how effective the shots are aswell. For example if Joe Calzaghe outlanded B-Hop by like 10 punches in one round.

    But B-Hop's punches were all clean effective straight right hand leads. Where as Joe Calzaghe's punches were all grazing arm punching slaps. Then im giving the round to B-Hop no question.

    And in alot of the early rounds i felt, mostly all of B-Hop's shots were clean effective right hand leads. And he even almost floored Joe Calzaghe twice in the fight aswell, at the end of one of the early rounds.

    Where as most of Joe Calzaghe's punches wern't effective punches, and he missed alot of punches.

    I have no problem with Joe Calzaghe getting the nod, due to him forcing the fight and because B-Hop faded. But i still feel B-Hop banked enough early rounds to just edge it IMO.

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    I had Hopkins winning it either 114-113 or 115-112, I think he had the cleaner & effective punching, and showed the better ring generalship, but I've got no issue with Calzaghe taking a close decision. I thought the judge who had him winning 9 rounds was a bit off his rocker though

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    i agree hopkins landed more single effective punches

    but they were so few and far between

    calzaghi was forcing the fight and as a result left himself open for these single punches

    he outpunched him by so many

    i would keep and open mind and watch the you tube vid, and maybe i will some day

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    The fight was dire, last big fight on the BBC, put them off boxing forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i agree hopkins landed more single effective punches

    but they were so few and far between

    calzaghi was forcing the fight and as a result left himself open for these single punches

    he outpunched him by so many

    i would keep and open mind and watch the you tube vid, and maybe i will some day
    Why not watch the fight and score it within the rules? This fight should of been a UD for Hopkins. Understand this rule. Follow it. And than watch the fight.

    "The boxer can only strike with a closed fist using the front knuckle portion of the glove. Slapping with an open hand or striking with the wrist or lace area is illegal. The thumb must be held tight to the fist to avoid eye-gouging."

    90% of Calzaghe's "punches" shouldn't even of counted. So how the fuck can anybody have him winning is just moronic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i agree hopkins landed more single effective punches

    but they were so few and far between

    calzaghi was forcing the fight and as a result left himself open for these single punches

    he outpunched him by so many

    i would keep and open mind and watch the you tube vid, and maybe i will some day
    Why not watch the fight and score it within the rules? This fight should of been a UD for Hopkins. Understand this rule. Follow it. And than watch the fight.

    "The boxer can only strike with a closed fist using the front knuckle portion of the glove. Slapping with an open hand or striking with the wrist or lace area is illegal. The thumb must be held tight to the fist to avoid eye-gouging."

    90% of Calzaghe's "punches" shouldn't even of counted. So how the fuck can anybody have him winning is just moronic.
    i just rewatched it, he won very clearly

    i watched the hopkins biast version, even on that joe won

    hopkins won the first four, or has a case for it, the rest of the rounds he only threw about 4 punches

    slaps kisses tickles whatever, even if 90% of calzaghis punches didnt count he still landed a lot more than hopkins

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    time and again i read how close and controvesial that decision was

    close? calzaghe landed 27 times as many punches as hopkins

    ok maybe you pick the best 3 punches of the fight and they would all be hopkins but those were the only 3 punches he landed

    calzaghe had a bad start and hopkins may have even won the first 4, after that it was clear calzaghi all the way

    the only thing controversial about it was that it was a spilt decision and not unanimous
    There's no way im rewatching this fight again, twice was enough for me. I had B-Hop winning. He landed the cleaner more effective punches, and had a very good start with the two point round.

    I didn't see Joe Calzaghe landing anything clean, most of his punches were blocked, slaps, or wern't landing that effectively. From my memory i can't remember Joe Calzaghe landing an eye catching blow all night.
    Exactly how I feel. Flailing around slapping the air doesn't win fights, clean and effective punching does. Hopkins won by a point IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    time and again i read how close and controvesial that decision was

    close? calzaghe landed 27 times as many punches as hopkins

    ok maybe you pick the best 3 punches of the fight and they would all be hopkins but those were the only 3 punches he landed

    calzaghe had a bad start and hopkins may have even won the first 4, after that it was clear calzaghi all the way

    the only thing controversial about it was that it was a spilt decision and not unanimous
    There's no way im rewatching this fight again, twice was enough for me. I had B-Hop winning. He landed the cleaner more effective punches, and had a very good start with the two point round.

    I didn't see Joe Calzaghe landing anything clean, most of his punches were blocked, slaps, or wern't landing that effectively. From my memory i can't remember Joe Calzaghe landing an eye catching blow all night.
    Exactly how I feel. Flailing around slapping the air doesn't win fights, clean and effective punching does. Hopkins won by a point IMO
    Didn't see much 'Clean and effective' punching from Nard after 4 rounds
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