Brian Magee v Lucian Bute - March 19th

[ross]

is this group sarcasm?

very unlikely but i hope magee does him

This is how all threads should be regarding seeming mismatches. I came in here expecting to see a load of pissing and moaning but was pleasently surprised to see some good old piss taking

Good on Magee, hes had a decent run recently. Although I should think this will be a retirement fund. Unless he wins an eliminator with Clinton Woods to fight the Pascal V Hopkins winner. See, even boxing is getting green these days, recycling all these old "names".

[erics44]

is this group sarcasm?

very unlikely but i hope magee does him

This is how all threads should be regarding seeming mismatches. I came in here expecting to see a load of pissing and moaning but was pleasently surprised to see some good old piss taking

Good on Magee, hes had a decent run recently. Although I should think this will be a retirement fund. Unless he wins an eliminator with Clinton Woods to fight the Pascal V Hopkins winner. See, even boxing is getting green these days, recycling all these old "names".

i agree dude, ive enjoyed the thread

[Master]

Magee got knocked out cold by Froch at his worst, why is this even allowed.

[skel1983]

Magee got knocked out cold by Froch at his worst, why is this even allowed.

He did but was in that fight and made Froch dig deep, Magee is leagues below Bute but with the fighters tied up in the super six Kesslers injury etc etc It is not the worst fight Magee is the European champ and is the mandatory fora world title on paper Magee is more worthy than Audley and Chisora for me.

[Rantcatrat]

He's a woefully deficient opponent, let's not get it twisted, and the sarcasm is deserved, but I challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable opponent at 168.

Bilbo?

[Rantcatrat]

Bute's situation is much different than Donaire's. Donaire had a ton of people he could have been fighting. Bute literally has none.

[TheMacMagician]

NO

And Bute is ranked 1 by most at SM. Bute will get exposed when its time for the top.

[ono]

He's a woefully deficient opponent, let's not get it twisted, and the sarcasm is deserved, but I challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable opponent at 168.

Bilbo?

Bilbo can't make 168. Fact.

[superheavyrhun]

He's a woefully deficient opponent, let's not get it twisted, and the sarcasm is deserved, but I challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable opponent at 168.

Bilbo?

Bilbo can't make 168. Fact.

Damn it ono, I saw that post and was going to make the exact same joke. In reality though, Bilbo would need to have a rucksack full of physics textbooks and be carrying a labrador in his arms to try and make 168.

[Kev]

He's a woefully deficient opponent, let's not get it twisted, and the sarcasm is deserved, but I challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable opponent at 168.

Bilbo?

Well as one who is not opposed to catchweights I would have just moved up to say 171-72 and fought a half decent opponent around there. Diaconu, Cloud, Erdei etc.

Both Bute and Erdei have weighed in voluntarily at 173 in fights the past couple years that would have made for an interesting fight.

Not sure what the story is on Dimitri Sartisan, I know he hasn't fought in a few months. Is he available or injured or what?

Were I Bute, and were I super ambitious (although admittedly I'm not. I would have sat on my ass and took joke fights for cash too) I would have made sure I got it on with my fellow countryman Jean Pascal. I'd have made it at a catchweight of 172 and had both of our titles on the line. To me that's a great matchup and a good weight for both fighters seeing as Bute has weighed 172 before and Pascal sometimes usually weighs in under 175 anyway.

[No Contest]

If Brinkley can go 8 Magee can do 10 rounds easy. If we could just get Bute to wear a dress in the ring Magee might spark him out.

[armin]

He's a woefully deficient opponent, let's not get it twisted, and the sarcasm is deserved, but I challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable opponent at 168.

Bilbo?

Well as one who is not opposed to catchweights I would have just moved up to say 171-72 and fought a half decent opponent around there. Diaconu, Cloud, Erdei etc.

Both Bute and Erdei have weighed in voluntarily at 173 in fights the past couple years that would have made for an interesting fight.

Not sure what the story is on Dimitri Sartisan, I know he hasn't fought in a few months. Is he available or injured or what?

Were I Bute, and were I super ambitious (although admittedly I'm not. I would have sat on my ass and took joke fights for cash too) I would have made sure I got it on with my fellow countryman Jean Pascal. I'd have made it at a catchweight of 172 and had both of our titles on the line. To me that's a great matchup and a good weight for both fighters seeing as Bute has weighed 172 before and Pascal sometimes usually weighs in under 175 anyway.

Not the best choice and sucks cause that makes 2 fights now that I'd rather not see.

Umm but not sure that sartison would be any better of a fight, kessler stopped him in 12 while leading on the cards by like ten points...

erdei or cloud wouldn't be bad, for diaconu meh wouldn't be able to hang with bute I don't think, looked just average in his last fight. He should get some flack for this fight but can't criticize him to much till some of the super six guys are free or back from injury. I think if makes a trend of this then yeah start the hate.

I don't think bute's resume prior to the super six is any worse than the guys that went into the super six. He's got bika, andrade x2, berrio whom he took the title from, zuniga and a few past title contenders or ex title holders, compare that to the fighters who entered the super six and really it's no worse other than kessler's and taylor's.

-Prior to froch entering he had pascal who wasn't that big of a name at that time, and a bunch of b level fighters fought exclusively in the uk. He was pretty much getting constant slack on here for having a huge mouth and not backing up shit.

-Andre Ward, pretty much unproven and no big names other than miranda.

-Dirrel didn't know jack about him prior really.

-AA fought exclusively in Germany, biggest wins were a ko and a sd over miranda.Also had a few decent european level/world contender fighters on resume.

-Kessler resume was better than bute's even prior to entering the tourney, and didn't exclusively fight at home.

-JT had by far and above the best resume of any of the fighters prior to entering the tourney.

Once again if bute continues fighting this type of competition once some of the tourney guys are free start the hate but till then hold your horses.

[Rantcatrat]

He's a woefully deficient opponent, let's not get it twisted, and the sarcasm is deserved, but I challenge anyone to come up with a reasonable opponent at 168.

Bilbo?

Well as one who is not opposed to catchweights I would have just moved up to say 171-72 and fought a half decent opponent around there. Diaconu, Cloud, Erdei etc.

Both Bute and Erdei have weighed in voluntarily at 173 in fights the past couple years that would have made for an interesting fight.

Not sure what the story is on Dimitri Sartisan, I know he hasn't fought in a few months. Is he available or injured or what?

Were I Bute, and were I super ambitious (although admittedly I'm not. I would have sat on my ass and took joke fights for cash too) I would have made sure I got it on with my fellow countryman Jean Pascal. I'd have made it at a catchweight of 172 and had both of our titles on the line. To me that's a great matchup and a good weight for both fighters seeing as Bute has weighed 172 before and Pascal sometimes usually weighs in under 175 anyway.

Bilbo, I agree Bute should fight better opponents, but the difference in our opinions, is that I don't fault him for not having any opponents to fight at his weight class and not moving up in weight.

I think we can agree that there isn't another good opponent at 168. Sartison isn't any different than Magee or Brinkley. The only semi-worthwhile opponent is Robert Steiglitz, but Steiglitz turned down a fight with Bute previously and really isn't anything special either. The only option is for him to jump up in weight to 175. I don't think Bute shoud be criticized for staying at his natural weight class and waiting to fight the best at that weight class when the tournament is over.

I can also assume we agree that he's done the right thing by going back to Showtime. That should tell you that he is interested in fighting the opponents in the tournament or he wouldn't have made that move.

I don't like the idea of him forcing Cloud or Erdei to come down to meet at a catchweight either.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Well I'm happy for Magee.
Maybe Bute will soften him up for a Degale fight in the summer

[Nameless]

Magee got knocked out cold by Froch at his worst, why is this even allowed.

Ask Showtime but we're all bummed here in Quebec, believe me, we would have wished for much better but apparently it's a "wait in line" fight till the super 6 unravels, at least that's what the radio did suggest in a very diplomatic way here. The other option was the mandatory Paul Mendy but it's an even worst possibility and Interbox aren't interested one second in that.