Oh fuck off Assange

[Gandalf]

That is all I have to contribute to this thread.

You celebrate what this guy does and why? Because it makes America look bad and to you that is apparently something that vindicates your feelings all along. Well I'm not going to tell you how to feel about America, perhaps my view on politics is a bit too Machiavellian for you, but I live in the real world and shit happens and it's better that it happens to other people in other countries than to America.

Assange doesn't care, he just likes being the center of attention, he has no ties to one place or another, he just wants to wield what little power he has, make his money, and be a cult hero.....I don't see it ending well for him though.

How do you know so much about the personality of Assange? Perhaps you are right, but at the same time perhaps you are way off base. I would avoid such assertions as they are irrelevant and avoid the facts. And the facts that matter are what Wikileaks tells us about the abuse of power.

You say I 'celebrate' Assange. I don't think I do. I make no pretence at knowing who he is, but like Chomsky and your friend Michael Moore, he is not afraid to release facts that show the extent of the corruption that is so blatantly apparent in your country. If the facts didn't exist then there would be nothing to reveal. It is the secrecy and lies that kill people, not the release of facts about the powers that be that commit such acts.

Sure, you live in the real world and the real world of your politics is savage and unjust. It isn't the real world of a lot of other far more civilised nations. I would much rather America keep its own savagery within its own borders and leave the rest of the world alone. Maybe then you wouldn't need to be so concerned about an organisation like Wikileaks.

[Kev]

That is all I have to contribute to this thread.

You celebrate what this guy does and why? Because it makes America look bad and to you that is apparently something that vindicates your feelings all along. Well I'm not going to tell you how to feel about America, perhaps my view on politics is a bit too Machiavellian for you, but I live in the real world and shit happens and it's better that it happens to other people in other countries than to America.

Assange doesn't care, he just likes being the center of attention, he has no ties to one place or another, he just wants to wield what little power he has, make his money, and be a cult hero.....I don't see it ending well for him though.

How do you know so much about the personality of Assange? Perhaps you are right, but at the same time perhaps you are way off base. I would avoid such assertions as they are irrelevant and avoid the facts. And the facts that matter are what Wikileaks tells us about the abuse of power.

You say I 'celebrate' Assange. I don't think I do. I make no pretence at knowing who he is, but like Chomsky and your friend Michael Moore, he is not afraid to release facts that show the extent of the corruption that is so blatantly apparent in your country. If the facts didn't exist then there would be nothing to reveal. It is the secrecy and lies that kill people, not the release of facts about the powers that be that commit such acts.

Sure, you live in the real world and the real world of your politics is savage and unjust. It isn't the real world of a lot of other far more civilised nations. I would much rather America keep its own savagery within its own borders and leave the rest of the world alone. Maybe then you wouldn't need to be so concerned about an organisation like Wikileaks.

Again, I ask you to please tell me what facts you have learnt as to America's abuse of power from the 250,000 cables released?

[Gandalf]

That is all I have to contribute to this thread.

You celebrate what this guy does and why? Because it makes America look bad and to you that is apparently something that vindicates your feelings all along. Well I'm not going to tell you how to feel about America, perhaps my view on politics is a bit too Machiavellian for you, but I live in the real world and shit happens and it's better that it happens to other people in other countries than to America.

Assange doesn't care, he just likes being the center of attention, he has no ties to one place or another, he just wants to wield what little power he has, make his money, and be a cult hero.....I don't see it ending well for him though.

How do you know so much about the personality of Assange? Perhaps you are right, but at the same time perhaps you are way off base. I would avoid such assertions as they are irrelevant and avoid the facts. And the facts that matter are what Wikileaks tells us about the abuse of power.

You say I 'celebrate' Assange. I don't think I do. I make no pretence at knowing who he is, but like Chomsky and your friend Michael Moore, he is not afraid to release facts that show the extent of the corruption that is so blatantly apparent in your country. If the facts didn't exist then there would be nothing to reveal. It is the secrecy and lies that kill people, not the release of facts about the powers that be that commit such acts.

Sure, you live in the real world and the real world of your politics is savage and unjust. It isn't the real world of a lot of other far more civilised nations. I would much rather America keep its own savagery within its own borders and leave the rest of the world alone. Maybe then you wouldn't need to be so concerned about an organisation like Wikileaks.

Again, I ask you to please tell me what facts you have learnt as to America's abuse of power from the 250,000 cables released?

I gave a response in the other thread. My contribution to this thread is officially done. I want to watch the cricket.

[boozeboxer]

I don't really have an opinion yet. I have the luxury of waiting to determine how I feel.

However, the victorian prison comment sounded so prick-like. Too bad he wasn't in a Somalian prison.

[Dizaster]

Besides all that though, the guy is seriously creepy....

I think their could be truth to the charges against him assaulting women...

The dude is like 30 and already has completely silver hair...

My theory is he's some sort of weird Pinocchio type mythological creature who's hair goes more gray each time he assaults a girl in the dark... Like these dark evil deeds turn him weirder and creepier until he's 35 and looking like Golum up there at press conferences saying he's a savior to truth and doesn't do any nasty acts to women....

[El Kabong]

Well miles I think Chomsky clinches the "nutjob liberal" tag by describing himself as an anarcho-syndicalist and libertarian socialist.

Dizaster, I think Assange is Crispen Glover's long lost brother

...I think I'm going to have nightmares

[Dizaster]

Well miles I think Chomsky clinches the "nutjob liberal" tag by describing himself as an anarcho-syndicalist and libertarian socialist.

Dizaster, I think Assange is Crispen Glover's long lost brother

...I think I'm going to have nightmares

haha that's funny! That entire video clip has a whole creepy Assange feel to it...

I wonder if it's his superhero theme music that he plays right before he hits the upload on one of his Earth shattering leaks...


(and in the background while he touches women)

[El Kabong]

How do you know so much about the personality of Assange? Perhaps you are right, but at the same time perhaps you are way off base. I would avoid such assertions as they are irrelevant and avoid the facts. And the facts that matter are what Wikileaks tells us about the abuse of power.

You say I 'celebrate' Assange. I don't think I do. I make no pretence at knowing who he is, but like Chomsky and your friend Michael Moore, he is not afraid to release facts that show the extent of the corruption that is so blatantly apparent in your country. If the facts didn't exist then there would be nothing to reveal. It is the secrecy and lies that kill people, not the release of facts about the powers that be that commit such acts.

Sure, you live in the real world and the real world of your politics is savage and unjust. It isn't the real world of a lot of other far more civilised nations. I would much rather America keep its own savagery within its own borders and leave the rest of the world alone. Maybe then you wouldn't need to be so concerned about an organisation like Wikileaks.

#1 Let's just say I know of the type of people who would do what Assange does....I do not think highly of them and I am certain that he has nefarious motives

#2 Well first off Michael Moore is what you accuse Fox News of being, he's a liar and he twists and manipulates the truth until it fits his contorted derranged idea of truth. Chomsky is just a fucking nutjob liberal. So yeah I expect you to hold Assange in the same regard as those guys because you buy what they are selling, that's fine that's a personal choice do as you like.

#3 The US could be a lot more savage...compared to many other nations we're tame and I think we do what we do just to survive and protect our citizens and our standing in the world.

#4 There are weapons that can destroy all the human life on earth...we're bound with other countries in what is at times a very shakey peace, I fail to see how releasing secrets which may hurt us but definently won't help us makes the world a better safer place miles...is that impractical? Is that jumping to conclusions? and does releasing secrets knowing and understanding what I have just mentioned seem like something that will help the world become a better place? I'm trying to place my line of logic in your hands miles....I'm saying Assange COULD release cables that endanger not only America but the entire world we're talking nuclear apocalypse. How does he know that what he releases won't cause any friction between the US and China or Russia or North Korea or Iran etc. As World War I taught us, all it takes is for 2 countries to decide to duke it out and then bang it's World War 3 and it will be a doozy

[Gandalf]

How do you know so much about the personality of Assange? Perhaps you are right, but at the same time perhaps you are way off base. I would avoid such assertions as they are irrelevant and avoid the facts. And the facts that matter are what Wikileaks tells us about the abuse of power.

You say I 'celebrate' Assange. I don't think I do. I make no pretence at knowing who he is, but like Chomsky and your friend Michael Moore, he is not afraid to release facts that show the extent of the corruption that is so blatantly apparent in your country. If the facts didn't exist then there would be nothing to reveal. It is the secrecy and lies that kill people, not the release of facts about the powers that be that commit such acts.

Sure, you live in the real world and the real world of your politics is savage and unjust. It isn't the real world of a lot of other far more civilised nations. I would much rather America keep its own savagery within its own borders and leave the rest of the world alone. Maybe then you wouldn't need to be so concerned about an organisation like Wikileaks.

#1 Let's just say I know of the type of people who would do what Assange does....I do not think highly of them and I am certain that he has nefarious motives

#2 Well first off Michael Moore is what you accuse Fox News of being, he's a liar and he twists and manipulates the truth until it fits his contorted derranged idea of truth. Chomsky is just a fucking nutjob liberal. So yeah I expect you to hold Assange in the same regard as those guys because you buy what they are selling, that's fine that's a personal choice do as you like.

#3 The US could be a lot more savage...compared to many other nations we're tame and I think we do what we do just to survive and protect our citizens and our standing in the world.

#4 There are weapons that can destroy all the human life on earth...we're bound with other countries in what is at times a very shakey peace, I fail to see how releasing secrets which may hurt us but definently won't help us makes the world a better safer place miles...is that impractical? Is that jumping to conclusions? and does releasing secrets knowing and understanding what I have just mentioned seem like something that will help the world become a better place? I'm trying to place my line of logic in your hands miles....I'm saying Assange COULD release cables that endanger not only America but the entire world we're talking nuclear apocalypse. How does he know that what he releases won't cause any friction between the US and China or Russia or North Korea or Iran etc. As World War I taught us, all it takes is for 2 countries to decide to duke it out and then bang it's World War 3 and it will be a doozy

1. Okay, I will have to take your word on that.

2. Okay, so Chomsky is a 'nutjob liberal'. Would you care to explain why?

3. The US could be "a lot more savage"? Well, I'm sure it could. You are the only nation I have known to use nuclear weapons to vaporise people and have killed millions of people the world over and tortured far more through economic deprivation, but sure you could be a lot more savage.

4. If governments didn't try to cover things up, were more open and the media did it's job, there would be no need for an organisation to reveal supposedly secret documents. Government should be about transparency and working in the interests of it population. What we currently have is the opposite. I'm all for any organisation that forces governments to think carefully about what they are doing. Unchecked power is the problem, not Wikileaks. Wars kill hundreds of thousands, these documents simply shed a little light. That's a big difference.

[Andre]

How do you know so much about the personality of Assange? Perhaps you are right, but at the same time perhaps you are way off base. I would avoid such assertions as they are irrelevant and avoid the facts. And the facts that matter are what Wikileaks tells us about the abuse of power.

You say I 'celebrate' Assange. I don't think I do. I make no pretence at knowing who he is, but like Chomsky and your friend Michael Moore, he is not afraid to release facts that show the extent of the corruption that is so blatantly apparent in your country. If the facts didn't exist then there would be nothing to reveal. It is the secrecy and lies that kill people, not the release of facts about the powers that be that commit such acts.

Sure, you live in the real world and the real world of your politics is savage and unjust. It isn't the real world of a lot of other far more civilised nations. I would much rather America keep its own savagery within its own borders and leave the rest of the world alone. Maybe then you wouldn't need to be so concerned about an organisation like Wikileaks.

#1 Let's just say I know of the type of people who would do what Assange does....I do not think highly of them and I am certain that he has nefarious motives

#2 Well first off Michael Moore is what you accuse Fox News of being, he's a liar and he twists and manipulates the truth until it fits his contorted derranged idea of truth. Chomsky is just a fucking nutjob liberal. So yeah I expect you to hold Assange in the same regard as those guys because you buy what they are selling, that's fine that's a personal choice do as you like.

#3 The US could be a lot more savage...compared to many other nations we're tame and I think we do what we do just to survive and protect our citizens and our standing in the world.

#4 There are weapons that can destroy all the human life on earth...we're bound with other countries in what is at times a very shakey peace, I fail to see how releasing secrets which may hurt us but definently won't help us makes the world a better safer place miles...is that impractical? Is that jumping to conclusions? and does releasing secrets knowing and understanding what I have just mentioned seem like something that will help the world become a better place? I'm trying to place my line of logic in your hands miles....I'm saying Assange COULD release cables that endanger not only America but the entire world we're talking nuclear apocalypse. How does he know that what he releases won't cause any friction between the US and China or Russia or North Korea or Iran etc. As World War I taught us, all it takes is for 2 countries to decide to duke it out and then bang it's World War 3 and it will be a doozy

You cad Sir!
You forced me into visiting Wicki house to look up nefarious.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I try not to look too much into the character of this Assange guy as it bares no influence on what wiki leaks is doing/ providing/ exposing etc.

It's not like he is running for prime minister or some shit. He's on the other side of the fence, he can be who ever the fuck he wants to be. Doesn't change the validity or content of the cables ay?

But for what it's worth, the guy is remarkably weird!

Did any one see his statement upon being released from Bail? He was like ''oh how I have missed the smell of London Air''... And then went to carry on speaking but suddenly realised he hadn't actually demonstrated his love for sniffing the air of London in to his nostrils and so he stopped dead in his tracks. Thought about it and then looked up at the sky and pulled a face like my Cat does when it's trying to ninja-sniff my dinner from a distance. Plonker!

[Kev]

I try not to look too much into the character of this Assange guy as it bares no influence on what wiki leaks is doing/ providing/ exposing etc.

It's not like he is running for prime minister or some shit. He's on the other side of the fence, he can be who ever the fuck he wants to be. Doesn't change the validity or content of the cables ay?

But for what it's worth, the guy is remarkably weird!

Did any one see his statement upon being released from Bail? He was like ''oh how I have missed the smell of London Air''... And then went to carry on speaking but suddenly realised he hadn't actually demonstrated his love for sniffing the air of London in to his nostrils and so he stopped dead in his tracks. Thought about it and then looked up at the sky and pulled a face like my Cat does when it's trying to ninja-sniff my dinner from a distance. Plonker!

The guy is a fucking bellend in my eyes. 'As I sat in isolation in a Victorian prison I thought about all those other persecuted people languishing in dungeons.....' 'FUCK OFF YOU HUBRISTIC WANKER!!!'.

Have you listened to any of the other interviews he has given since? The man doesn't shut up. He takes at least 5 minutes to answer and clearly positively relishes in his role as some kind of bold, heroic destroyer of corruption and proclaimer of the truth.

Looking at him he was obviously a weird, loathed kid who was bullied at school and could have gone one of two way. He could have become some weird, stalker rapist type or serial killer or he could get his feeling of power by trying to take over the world. Either way he's just indulging the kind of childhood fantasies he probably held whilst being forced to eat dogshit off of his fellow pupil's shoes.

[El Kabong]

I heard somebody hacked into Assange's email and apparently the guy is a sexual deviant...apparently he stalked that 19 year old girl he raped. Of course I haven't seen any of those emails, but I'll check on them.

[El Kabong]

I heard somebody hacked into Assange's email and apparently the guy is a sexual deviant...apparently he stalked that 19 year old girl he raped. Of course I haven't seen any of those emails, but I'll check on them.

Well they weren't emails to the girl he allegedly raped, but they were to a 19 year old girl and ....well apparently we've found a guy creepier than Clubber.

[Kev]

I heard somebody hacked into Assange's email and apparently the guy is a sexual deviant...apparently he stalked that 19 year old girl he raped. Of course I haven't seen any of those emails, but I'll check on them.

Well they weren't emails to the girl he allegedly raped, but they were to a 19 year old girl and ....well apparently we've found a guy creepier than Clubber.

haha have you read them! Fuck me, I can't really have a go at him for flirting with near jailbait as for myself it is the dream also, but damn his emails are weird.

He sounds exactly like that weird freak who did the infamous phonecall lecturing some poor girl on how she was passive aggressive for not responding to his advances.

Here's a couple of them.

WikiLeaks boss Julian Assange's 'stalker-style' emails to 19-year-old girl exposed | Mail Online


He does sound like a real knob to fair. I much prefer the Amir Khan seduction technique of 'here's a pic of my knob, wish I wuz inside u baby' approach.