Wikileaks? Are you for or against what they are doing?

[Kev]

Your ravings about elites and unchecked power just leads me to believe that no matter the cost you consider America a great evil and you want it brought down to size.

I merely state that before you put all your eggs in that basket you consider the alternative to what we have today. Consider Nazi or Soviet rule, Communism and Socialism may be terms you agree to on paper but once again in the real world those forms of government bring nothing good to the table and the elites of those societies are hypocrites of the highest order and corrupt to boot.

These leaks can cause trouble, what happens if he leaks something that draws a military response from a nation like Iran or North Korea. And don't give me that "Iran has had to build its army to make sure its safe" bullcrap, they want Israel off the map, they've said as much and with no leaks needed

The way Miles talks about Iran you would think they are the utopian model for peaceful democratic government.

Every other nation in the Arab world is a tinpot dictatorship, Israel are Satan's own spawn. America is the biggest threat to world peace, Britain is it's lapdog.

It seems that Iran leads the world on human rights issues and is the only peaceful and family friendly nation in the world today.

Let's just have another quick look at their avuncular, almost saintly leader.

Not at all, Bilbo. Iran is another example of unhealthy concentration of power in the hands of an elite that is not responsive to the will of the general population. Sound familiar? I will not defend the regime.

And only Israel has moved beyond the rhetoric in recent years, Bilbo....not Iran.

What nations has Israel attacked in recent years?

[Gandalf]

Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2008 most readily spring to mind. Yeah, yeah, Palestine is not recognised as a country, but it is hardly Israel.

[Gandalf]

An interesting read.

Freed on bail – but US steps up efforts to charge Assange with conspiracy - Americas, World - The Independent

How low will America go to get their man? Manning is the man who stole the files and did so on his own, but the US government is going to go relatively easy on him if he says Assange was behind it too? That is low.

I'm glad to see John Conyers has a bit of sense and I was also pleased to read the comments at the end of the article. Seems that most of the people posting are of a similar mindset to me.

[Oggie]

Your ravings about elites and unchecked power just leads me to believe that no matter the cost you consider America a great evil and you want it brought down to size.

I merely state that before you put all your eggs in that basket you consider the alternative to what we have today. Consider Nazi or Soviet rule, Communism and Socialism may be terms you agree to on paper but once again in the real world those forms of government bring nothing good to the table and the elites of those societies are hypocrites of the highest order and corrupt to boot.

These leaks can cause trouble, what happens if he leaks something that draws a military response from a nation like Iran or North Korea. And don't give me that "Iran has had to build its army to make sure its safe" bullcrap, they want Israel off the map, they've said as much and with no leaks needed

The way Miles talks about Iran you would think they are the utopian model for peaceful democratic government.

Every other nation in the Arab world is a tinpot dictatorship, Israel are Satan's own spawn. America is the biggest threat to world peace, Britain is it's lapdog.

It seems that Iran leads the world on human rights issues and is the only peaceful and family friendly nation in the world today.

Let's just have another quick look at their avuncular, almost saintly leader.

Not at all, Bilbo. Iran is another example of unhealthy concentration of power in the hands of an elite that is not responsive to the will of the general population. Sound familiar? I will not defend the regime.

And only Israel has moved beyond the rhetoric in recent years, Bilbo....not Iran.

What nations has Israel attacked in recent years?

For what it's worth, Assange annoys me and he seems to be a little spotlight happy for my liking, revelling in the power that he finds himself wielding... but I'm happy to know what is going on and how things work behind the doors of the manipulative masters the world over.