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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    I have always been a big fan of Evander and I think he may be the more talented of two but as far as legacy and best of the era you really can't argue with Lewis's reign and resume. On a side note I actually thought Evander won the Lewis rematch.
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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    both of these guys were ATG's imo. holyfield had a great run and is probably considered top 10 all-time at heavyweight. until last year, after viewing some of lewis' earlier fights, i didn't know how great this guy was. this guy was absolutely incredible and i think vastly underrated. okay, so, if you had to put a gun to my head, i would have to pick lennox lewis over holyfield. both of these guys had it all but because of the size difference, lennox was the better heavyweight and certainly a top 8 all-time.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    I have always been a big fan of Evander and I think he may be the more talented of two but as far as legacy and best of the era you really can't argue with Lewis's reign and resume. On a side note I actually thought Evander won the Lewis rematch.
    I actually scored the rematch a draw so IMO the 2 fights got the right results just they came with the wrong fights.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Prime for prime I think we'd see the same result.

    You have to ask when was Evanders prime. If it was teh early 90s then logic dictates that if a cruiserweight like Cooper could hurt Evander then Lewis would have finished him. If a prime versiuon of Evander was the guy who beat Tyson then Lewis fought him and beat him twice. Evander was a great champion but Lennox had all the pyhiscal tools, too much power, great jab and had his number and would be a hard man to beat against any heavyweight champ in history.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Prime for prime I think we'd see the same result.

    You have to ask when was Evanders prime. If it was teh early 90s then logic dictates that if a cruiserweight like Cooper could hurt Evander then Lewis would have finished him. If a prime versiuon of Evander was the guy who beat Tyson then Lewis fought him and beat him twice. Evander was a great champion but Lennox had all the pyhiscal tools, too much power, great jab and had his number and would be a hard man to beat against any heavyweight champ in history.
    Cooper was a legitimate heavyweight puncher but don't think he hit harder then Foreman...who bounced everything he could off Holyfield in prior fight and didnt do what Cooper did. Holyfields head was all wrong in front of hometown crowd and going from originally being set to meet Mike Tyson who pulled out....then Francesco Damiani....then to literal last minute sub for a sub, Cooper.

    Do think Cooper is THE man to have hurt him the worst in career though. Out of everyone,just weird how it translates.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Evander was a great technical boxer and counter puncher unfortunately for him he wanted to be a KO artist. He all to often abandoned his boxing and was drawn into slugfests. I think his desire to have KO power at HW caused him to add too much muscle and lead to his heart and stamina issues.
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    Prime for prime I think we'd see the same result.

    You have to ask when was Evanders prime. If it was teh early 90s then logic dictates that if a cruiserweight like Cooper could hurt Evander then Lewis would have finished him. If a prime versiuon of Evander was the guy who beat Tyson then Lewis fought him and beat him twice. Evander was a great champion but Lennox had all the pyhiscal tools, too much power, great jab and had his number and would be a hard man to beat against any heavyweight champ in history.
    Cooper was a legitimate heavyweight puncher but don't think he hit harder then Foreman...who bounced everything he could off Holyfield in prior fight and didnt do what Cooper did. Holyfields head was all wrong in front of hometown crowd and going from originally being set to meet Mike Tyson who pulled out....then Francesco Damiani....then to literal last minute sub for a sub, Cooper.

    Do think Cooper is THE man to have hurt him the worst in career though. Out of everyone,just weird how it translates.
    Bert Cooper was on a nice little run then aswell, also giving Michael Moorer hell.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    I think the reason Holyfield took Foremans punch but struggled with Coopers is cuz he saw Foremans coming. They were sent second class so Evander was able to prepare. Lewis' culd land quicker and changed the angles of his shots ( Rahman 2 ) Bowe knocked Holyfield out aswel before Evander had his best wins. Problem with Evander is that he always wanted to trade with biggr men when he would have been better served using his speed to get in and out.

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    Default Re: The better HW of their era, Holyfield or Lewis?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    I think the reason Holyfield took Foremans punch but struggled with Coopers is cuz he saw Foremans coming. They were sent second class so Evander was able to prepare. Lewis' culd land quicker and changed the angles of his shots ( Rahman 2 ) Bowe knocked Holyfield out aswel before Evander had his best wins. Problem with Evander is that he always wanted to trade with biggr men when he would have been better served using his speed to get in and out.
    I think it was more of a fluky thing, a true brick that any big man is capable of on any given night. He landed after 3rd, and Evander took em. After all, pretty sure he didn't see that brutal pin point uppercut in the 10th round coming from the best version of Bowe we've seen. Same round ended fairly well for him I'd say.
    Tyson win was great. Considering some pundits and fans considered 'that' version of Holyfield a walking dead man going in. He did however have some best wins at hvy before Bowe ko. I'd say discipline and style he showed in Foreman and Bowe 2 would suit him well vs Lewis in any form. Better then 'later' version who was gifted a draw and did after all end up on otherside of a debatable 2nd fight.

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