Solis vs. Austin and Cloud vs. Zuniga

[CFH]

I like Solis' style. He's just aggressive and a bully. Walks relentlessly forward, throws a punch, follows it up with a push, doesn't seem to give a shit about what's coming back at him. He's like a Sherman Tank.

You actually think this bowling ball of a fighter can beat David Haye?

He has pretty good hand speed for a bowling ball. If Haye can't hurt him than Solis walks through him

His handspeed is okay, I like the way he places his shots, and he's by no means a terrible fighter, I just don't see anything in him that makes me think he can compete with the division's best.

[Kev]

I like Solis' style. He's just aggressive and a bully. Walks relentlessly forward, throws a punch, follows it up with a push, doesn't seem to give a shit about what's coming back at him. He's like a Sherman Tank.

You actually think this bowling ball of a fighter can beat David Haye?

He has pretty good hand speed for a bowling ball. If Haye can't hurt him than Solis walks through him

His handspeed is okay, I like the way he places his shots, and he's by no means a terrible fighter, I just don't see anything in him that makes me think he can compete with the division's best.

How is this performance any worse than Adamek against Michael Grant though? Austin is a more credible opponent than Grant and Solis is winning every round.

He's a big step up from Vinny Maddelone.

[CFH]

I like Solis' style. He's just aggressive and a bully. Walks relentlessly forward, throws a punch, follows it up with a push, doesn't seem to give a shit about what's coming back at him. He's like a Sherman Tank.

You actually think this bowling ball of a fighter can beat David Haye?

He has pretty good hand speed for a bowling ball. If Haye can't hurt him than Solis walks through him

His handspeed is okay, I like the way he places his shots, and he's by no means a terrible fighter, I just don't see anything in him that makes me think he can compete with the division's best.

How is this performance any worse than Adamek against Michael Grant though? Austin is a more credible opponent than Grant and Solis is winning every round.

He's a big step up from Vinny Maddelone.

I've never once mentioned Adamek, so I don't see how that is a valid point. For what it's worth, I'm far from sold on Adamek as a legitimate heavyweight, I don't think he'll beat anyone of note either.

[Kev]

I like Solis' style. He's just aggressive and a bully. Walks relentlessly forward, throws a punch, follows it up with a push, doesn't seem to give a shit about what's coming back at him. He's like a Sherman Tank.

You actually think this bowling ball of a fighter can beat David Haye?

He has pretty good hand speed for a bowling ball. If Haye can't hurt him than Solis walks through him

His handspeed is okay, I like the way he places his shots, and he's by no means a terrible fighter, I just don't see anything in him that makes me think he can compete with the division's best.

How is this performance any worse than Adamek against Michael Grant though? Austin is a more credible opponent than Grant and Solis is winning every round.

He's a big step up from Vinny Maddelone.

I've never once mentioned Adamek, so I don't see how that is a valid point. I'm far from sold on him as a legitimate heavyweight, I don't think he'll beat anyone of note either.

We agree there then.

My point is that the only fighters I see as performing as well as Solis are the Klitschko's, Haye, Adamek and Povetkin.

He's definitely a contender and I've never seen him in trouble.

What I don't get though is that Adamek was praised for his life and death win over Michael Grant, a fighter so chinny that he was actually KO'd by Dominic Guinn.

Haye never looked like a world champ to me against Monte Barrett or Nikolay Valuev, and he's been floored by Carl Thompson and Jean Marc Mormeck.

Solis is a step above those guys. I think he can take Haye into the deep waters and test him, Adamek too.

I can't see him beating a Klitschko but he's got as good a chance as any of the others.

I'd take him over both Haye and Adamek. I think Povetkin outworks him though unless he gets in shape.

Chambers might do well against him too.

[Kev]

On an unrelated note, it's been snowing all night here and is completely white outside. First time we've had proper snow in Torqauy since I was a kid!

[Spicoli]

He's a sucker for uppercuts and cheap buffets. This did him no good what so ever.

[CFH]

I like Solis' style. He's just aggressive and a bully. Walks relentlessly forward, throws a punch, follows it up with a push, doesn't seem to give a shit about what's coming back at him. He's like a Sherman Tank.

You actually think this bowling ball of a fighter can beat David Haye?

He has pretty good hand speed for a bowling ball. If Haye can't hurt him than Solis walks through him

His handspeed is okay, I like the way he places his shots, and he's by no means a terrible fighter, I just don't see anything in him that makes me think he can compete with the division's best.

How is this performance any worse than Adamek against Michael Grant though? Austin is a more credible opponent than Grant and Solis is winning every round.

He's a big step up from Vinny Maddelone.

I've never once mentioned Adamek, so I don't see how that is a valid point. I'm far from sold on him as a legitimate heavyweight, I don't think he'll beat anyone of note either.

We agree there then.

My point is that the only fighters I see as performing as well as Solis are the Klitschko's, Haye, Adamek and Povetkin.

He's definitely a contender and I've never seen him in trouble.

What I don't get though is that Adamek was praised for his life and death win over Michael Grant, a fighter so chinny that he was actually KO'd by Dominic Guinn.

Haye never looked like a world champ to me against Monte Barrett or Nikolay Valuev, and he's been floored by Carl Thompson and Jean Marc Mormeck.

Solis is a step above those guys. I think he can take Haye into the deep waters and test him, Adamek too.

I can't see him beating a Klitschko but he's got as good a chance as any of the others.

I'd take him over both Haye and Adamek. I think Povetkin outworks him though unless he gets in shape.

Chambers might do well against him too.

I thought Haye looked okay against Barrett, but that's a bit of a digression. Solis definitely has natural ability, and if he dedicates himself and grows as a fighter I'm sure he can compete with most of the division. However, from what I've seen of him to this point, he's just not impressive and I don't think he will fare very well as he steps up his competition unless he improves dramatically.

[Rantcatrat]

I like Solis' style. He's just aggressive and a bully. Walks relentlessly forward, throws a punch, follows it up with a push, doesn't seem to give a shit about what's coming back at him. He's like a Sherman Tank.

You actually think this bowling ball of a fighter can beat David Haye?

He has pretty good hand speed for a bowling ball. If Haye can't hurt him than Solis walks through him

His handspeed is okay, I like the way he places his shots, and he's by no means a terrible fighter, I just don't see anything in him that makes me think he can compete with the division's best.

How is this performance any worse than Adamek against Michael Grant though? Austin is a more credible opponent than Grant and Solis is winning every round.

He's a big step up from Vinny Maddelone.

I've never once mentioned Adamek, so I don't see how that is a valid point. I'm far from sold on him as a legitimate heavyweight, I don't think he'll beat anyone of note either.

We agree there then.

My point is that the only fighters I see as performing as well as Solis are the Klitschko's, Haye, Adamek and Povetkin.

He's definitely a contender and I've never seen him in trouble.

What I don't get though is that Adamek was praised for his life and death win over Michael Grant, a fighter so chinny that he was actually KO'd by Dominic Guinn.

Haye never looked like a world champ to me against Monte Barrett or Nikolay Valuev, and he's been floored by Carl Thompson and Jean Marc Mormeck.

Solis is a step above those guys. I think he can take Haye into the deep waters and test him, Adamek too.

I can't see him beating a Klitschko but he's got as good a chance as any of the others.

I'd take him over both Haye and Adamek. I think Povetkin outworks him though unless he gets in shape.

Chambers might do well against him too.

I learned from Arreola that I can't take a fighter seriously who doesn't take training seriously.

[ross]

Mayorga looks powerfull here! Much better than Andy Lee did against Walker, he couldnt dent his chin.

[Spicoli]

Did you see Solis's quote...."I wanted him to suffer, It was my strategy" Oh and he says "I'm not fat".... Just big boned

[Hulk]

Mayorga looks powerfull here! Much better than Andy Lee did against Walker, he couldnt dent his chin.

Yeah he did.

I watched it last night and Mayorga was landing those wide right hands behind Walker's guard and he was splitting the guard with upper cuts.

Good win.

[OumaFan]

finish him!

[OumaFan]

what's going on?

[Kev]

haha what a farcical ending

Do you get the points for that Ouma?

I guess Miles would be outraged at that DQ for a punch after the bell that didn't even land.

[OumaFan]

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

I'm blaming this on Solis. Seriously, you've got an out on his feet 40 year old that was never very good and you still can't finish him?

All of that aside, he's just not very good.