Pacquiao-Mosley done deal

[Majesty]

I think people that feel the division is passing Mayweather by, I think its more or less standing still. Like I said Pacquiao taking all these fights isn't going to be good for him as he won't be as fresh when the Mayweather fight does happen.

But worse could happen, what if Mayweather fights the Bradley vs Alexander winner? or fights Andre Berto next? Then it makes Pacquiao look bad. And if Mayweather doesn't stay active he remains fresh while Pacquiao takes these gimmie fights and even takes punishment in them he doesn't have to, and going through training camps. If by the time they fight Mayweather has had two training camps and two fights and Mayweather has had 4 in the same amount of time nearing the end of his career and focus on politics, it's not going to be good for him. Pacquiao should just tell Arum to stop with the "im the guy Mayweather's ducking" fights to try to make extra money because when the fight actually happens he'll be at a disadvantage mentally and physically.

I can't wait to see the media hype this fight as competitive. The two highlights they'll show is Mosley rocking Mayweather and stopping Margarito, over and over again. And who can wait for the 24/7?

[C-Lo]

Regardless of the styles both guys bring to the table, the public (ESPECIALLY the posters on this forum) will see Shane's last two performances and think this is a pointless fight. Personally, I wanted to see him and Marquez fight for a third time but there are very few challenges left for Manny besides the obvious, Mayweather.

What do you mean by that? Mosley hasn't looked impressive in several years and he was godawful against a mediocre opponent in his last fight. I've become a huge Pacquiao fan over the last couple of years, but I'm very unhappy with this fight.

I mean that the posters on this forum are going to hate that this fight got made and talk more trash about Pacquiao.

[fan johnny]

After seeing Hopkins vs Pascal, (and it was a good fight) I'm sure there are a lot of people seeing Pacquiao vs Mosley a better fight than Pac vs ____, since his fight with Marquez. I would expect this fight to sell out very quickly.

[Rantcatrat]

Surely this is just a gimme/keeping busy type of fight? A big name fight to keep the $$$'s rolling in??

I think half the problem with anyone Manny faces is that it will always be a disappointment until he faces PBF. I too wanted him to settle the score with Marquez but let's be honest, a blown up 147lb 37 year old Marquez has less of a chance than Mosley. Mosley may be old but at least he's still quick and can dig, it can still be competitive. Berto is a non starter purely down to marketing so Shane makes good sense financially.

Dan Rafael of ESPN and Kevin Iole of Yahoo are upset about this fight:

Manny Pacquiao-Shane Mosley a bad fight for boxing - ESPN

Arum's spin on Pacquiao-Mosley is pure garbage - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

I found it interesting what Arum said after the Mosley-Mora fight:

"What I've read is not very supportive to make any Mosley-Pacquiao bout. Look, he's going to be 40 and he's in the lighter weights where speed is so important. He's on a show with guys -- example, 20-year-old Saul Canelo Alvarez -- old enough to be his son."

Source:
Bob Arum says Shane Mosley not likely to land Manny Pacquiao showdown - SI.com - Boxing

I agree with Taeth that Mosley will be competitive, but the difference in our opinions is that I believe this level of competition won't last very long. I see Pacquiao pulling away after four rounds and maybe stopping Mosley late by TKO. The only hope for a different outcome is that Shane just has trouble with defensive counter-punchers and that was why his performances against PBF and Mora were disappointing, but he was impressive against Margarito. Pacquiao isn't a counter-puncher so maybe Shane won't have as much trouble with him.

[:::PSL:::]

I see Mosely stationary on his feet,... just jittering his hands, not throwing a lot of punches.

[Rantcatrat]

I see Mosely stationary on his feet,... just jittering his hands, not throwing a lot of punches.

Agreed. One thing redeemable about this fight is that at least after it Pacquiao will have cleaned out the entire welterweight division other than PBF and Berto. Whereas in the other divisions he recently moved through, he fought one fight and was out.

[generalbulldog]

He should have fought Berto instead. If Arum could match him up with a no-name fighter like Clottey, why not Berto? IMO, the Berto fight would have made at least 900k PPV buys, if a no name like Clottey who the general public doesn't know can make 700k buys.

Berto is young, undefeated, fast and powerful and a 147 pounder. His defense may be leaky but it would have been new blood and would have been competitive for a few rounds.

This fight with Mosley would have been great after Pac's fight with Hatton or Cotto.

And another thing I don't buy that Berto is an unknown when Pac fought Clottey.

[J_Undisputed]

This could shape up to be a replay of the Pac vs. DLH fight. This isn't a fight made for casual boxing fan and not the hardcore. The casuals will disregard moselys age and tune in just to see if Manny can beat him worse than /take that punch better than Mayweather did. Roach loves a fight like this because knows that Mosely can't pull the trigger anymore. The first round or two looked impressive vs. mayweather because Floyd sat back, tried to read and feel out Shane, while Shane was the all out aggressor. Manny goes straight to work. Moselys jab isn't anything to write home about, so don't be surprised to see him blistered with counters through the fight when he flicks out a pitty pat range finder. Enough of those and mosely should go into a shell and he won't be able to keep pace with Manny and it will probably be a massacre.
Theres always the fabled bomb that can land from Shane, but like I said, he's not as quick on the draw as he used to be... and the planets would have to align just right for that to happen. i.e. He's the aggressor against a less active fighter (unlikely in this fight), Manny's moving straight forward or back without punching and not stepping to the side (a no-no since the roach reprogramming), He steps into manny at the same time manny steps into him (he should be late by about half a step, off balance and covering up), He closes his eyes and swings in an exchange and connects tarver style. (could happen). 1 out of 4 is still a chance, I guess. Nazeem better grow some more arms and get some more towels...

[Hornfinger]

This fight will not even be close to being remotely interesting.

Well done to pacroid for finally fighting a welter weight at 147. Major round of applause for that. But lets not forget who he's fighting.

Shane mosley was already old and then he aged a good 10 years between rounds 3 and 12 against Floyd Mayweather. He then went on to look pretty useless against sergio mora, an average fighter at best.

Before that Mosley beat the heck out of Antonio Margarito. An impressive win but was Tony's mind really on the fight that night? taking in to consideration 10 minutes earlier he'd been busted for illeagle handwraps. And let's not forget that fight was the best shane mosley had look in 5 years!

And before that.......

He struggled with Mayorga

Got beat by Cotto

Narrowly edged Colazo who was injured in that fight (correct me if I'm wrong)


To be honest pacroid should stop Mosley, I can't see old man Mosley bringing anything to the table.

Another farce of a pacroid fight.

Lap it up.

[Kev]

Narrowly edge Collazo, haha it was a completely one sided boxing lesson you clearly didn't even watch the fight.

Shane has looked no worse in recent fights than J M Marquez imo. Marquez lost to Floyd in an even more one sided way than Shane did, he also went life and death in fights with Casamayor, Diaz and most recently Katsidis.

Sure Mosely got a draw last time out against Mora, but Mora is an awkward opponent to look good against and virtually everyone though Mosley deserved the win, the HBO team had him well ahead and claimed the result was a travesty.

The cries that he is done and finised are a bit OTT. Marquez is routinely getting dropped in fights nowadays and having to really go to war to win.

I've seen nothing in their last 4 or 5 performances to suggest that Marquez is performing any better than Shane right now.

He struggled far more with Katsidis than Juan Diaz did, and he struggled more with Juan Diaz than Paulie Maliggnagi did.

Mosley has at least KO'd two huge strong fighters in Mayorga and Margarito. Sorry but Marquez ain't doing that to either of those guys,

[luvfightgame]

Ok, not the best fight, but certainly not as bad as you are saying.

Dominated Collazo. Check it, it wasn't a close fight, Collazo did hurt his hand early on.
Mora is an ugly fight for anyone, and he beat Forrest, so Mosley didn't do too bad.
Mayweather, enough said.
Margarito was fresh off destroying Cotto, and the prediction for that fight was the same as this one.
Cotto- very close fight, and Shane had Cotto back pedaling the last half of the fight.

Overall, it will be an entertaining fight. And I would pick Mosley to beat JMM so not as interested in the threematch.

This fight will not even be close to being remotely interesting.

Well done to pacroid for finally fighting a welter weight at 147. Major round of applause for that. But lets not forget who he's fighting.

Shane mosley was already old and then he aged a good 10 years between rounds 3 and 12 against Floyd Mayweather. He then went on to look pretty useless against sergio mora, an average fighter at best.

Before that Mosley beat the heck out of Antonio Margarito. An impressive win but was Tony's mind really on the fight that night? taking in to consideration 10 minutes earlier he'd been busted for illeagle handwraps. And let's not forget that fight was the best shane mosley had look in 5 years!

And before that.......

He struggled with Mayorga

Got beat by Cotto

Narrowly edged Colazo who was injured in that fight (correct me if I'm wrong)


To be honest pacroid should stop Mosley, I can't see old man Mosley bringing anything to the table.

Another farce of a pacroid fight.

Lap it up.

[sleepless]

The key is patience. After mosely fight, then who else is the fighter that makes most sense in terms of money and fame for pac if not for marquez and after marquez i think it could be berto or bradley or alexander etc. etc ... See, in due time, these guys will all have a chance to fight pacman eventually. But if floyd comes out and the fight happens i do think it is pac's last fight especially if he wins emphatically.