The new Valero

[ElTerribleMorales]

Could have been Bilbo.

I'm not too sure about how much trouble he would have given Pac, that's his kind of fight.

Remembering Valero reminds me of what could have been though, like JMM vs. Valero which was very possible.

IMO JMM vs Valero wouldn't have been much more different than Marquez Katsidis

[hardcore_crash]

Could have been Bilbo.

I'm not too sure about how much trouble he would have given Pac, that's his kind of fight.

Remembering Valero reminds me of what could have been though, like JMM vs. Valero which was very possible.

IMO JMM vs Valero wouldn't have been much more different than Marquez Katsidis

You're likely right; it would have been a hell of a fight.
Valero just had those heavy hands, but De Marco handled it well if I remember correctly.

[GAME]

Lets see if this bro can be something Edwin could have been. Based on that vid he is very similar ( apart from the stance ) but I'll be looking forward to seeing him go on in his career after a couple more years of blowing away bums.

The new Valero looked pretty good to me. Quick hands, aggression, speed, reflexes. Cant judge him too much on that display apart from how he got it done which was was impressive.

[JT Rock]

Could have been Bilbo.

I'm not too sure about how much trouble he would have given Pac, that's his kind of fight.

Remembering Valero reminds me of what could have been though, like JMM vs. Valero which was very possible.

IMO JMM vs Valero wouldn't have been much more different than Marquez Katsidis

Except if Valero caught him clean like Kats did he would have been counting ceiling tiles

[ElTerribleMorales]

and you determined that from what? the 3 kd's Pacquiao scored on him and how he got up from ALL of them, same thing in the rematch, and against Mayweather and Katsidis

[JT Rock]

and you determined that from what? the 3 kd's Pacquiao scored on him and how he got up from ALL of them, same thing in the rematch, and against Mayweather and Katsidis

Sure but you dont get hit that cleanly and that many times buy a guy like Edwin Valero. He was a ferocious puncher and not the kind of guy you get into a fire fight with. It would not have been a flash Knock down.

JMM would have fought Valero alot different than Kats, thats my point

[Pavlik]

Could have been Bilbo.

I'm not too sure about how much trouble he would have given Pac, that's his kind of fight.

Remembering Valero reminds me of what could have been though, like JMM vs. Valero which was very possible.

IMO JMM vs Valero wouldn't have been much more different than Marquez Katsidis

As described in the 2010 Ring Almanac Valero is a Murderous puncher, I think Valero has "that" type of power than when he hurts you you're pretty much done. I would not say Maequez can't beat him but Valero is so much better than Katsidis.