The new Valero

[hardcore_crash]

Could have been Bilbo.

I'm not too sure about how much trouble he would have given Pac, that's his kind of fight.

Remembering Valero reminds me of what could have been though, like JMM vs. Valero which was very possible.

IMO JMM vs Valero wouldn't have been much more different than Marquez Katsidis

You're likely right; it would have been a hell of a fight.
Valero just had those heavy hands, but De Marco handled it well if I remember correctly.