Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??

[hardcore_crash]

Cotto's taken some hellacious shots I don't think he has a bad chin, his defense could be improved, but oh well.

I dont think Cotto has a bad chin. I just think he can be bullied, intimidated. If his opponent has something that can counter his own work I have always felt he would fall apart. He doesnt seem to have a higher gear to fight back or figure an opponent out.

To be fair, it doesnt take much to figure Mayorga out but when you arent that great defensively and are are relatively week minded as I think Cotto is, then when Mayorga gets in decent shape and marauds him constantly and lands some clean shots I think Cotto will just gradually get beaten up and probably take another knee.

Relatively weak minded. Bro do you live in a cave? Cotto fought Mosely prior to PBF and beat him, fought Marg before he got caught and Clottey. Miguel Cotto is a warrior!!!

I can see why he said that. Cotto did take a knee from the pressure Margarito put on him, and you could see he just didn't want to be in there against Pac in the last round or two.
Let's make one thing clear everyone who laces the pair of gloves is a warrior in my eyes. Cotto is no exception. He definately has heart and balls to be in there and take some of the beatings he's taken.
He just seems to break down when he is not the bully or is being pushed around himself.
Out of all the things Cotto that took him down a few notches in my book was when he low blowed Zab constantly to save his life...

low blowed?! I think Zab is just O.A.
I never thought Miguel was in anywhere shape or form in trouble vs Zab.
Regarding Mosely, Cotto convincingly beat him, even Mosely have no qualms about it.
Cotto is a near perfect gentleman IMO!!!

Maybe you missed the first three rounds,,, if you don't think those are low blows I don't know what to say to you other than re-watch the first half of the fight...

1st round Cotto was the aggresor until he got caugh with a flush left uppercut and was wobbled and backtracking until a very intentional low blow to buy sometime.

2nd round Cotto was dominating until he got caught with a another flush left, but this time a straight. He started backpedaling to end the round after being hurt.

3rd round Cotto landed a very nasty and obvious low blow again...

[Majesty]

Shane Mosley has a better chin, faster hands, sharper punches....putting Mayorga in with Cotto you can expect another version of the Abdullaev fight where Cotto boxes more, picks his time to pour on the punishment, and then circles out and draws Mayorga into more counter punches.

I dont think Shane has the better chin. Ricardo took some massive clean shots, also some free ones off Forrest and didnt blink. Whereas Forrest had Mosley in trouble. Then theres the fact that Mayorga did what Mosley couldnt to Forrest. Which is why I say a properly prepared Mayorga is hell for any fighter at light middle and below. It may be too late now for Mayorgas legs but its Cotto who I dont rate and at a weight that suits Mayorga and not Cotto.

Mayorga only got stopped by body shots from Trinidad, he took a ton on the chin and again some free left hooks, 3 in a row I think. Mayorga has one of the best chins of the last 10 years. What let him down was his preparation, out of the ring for too long, not sharp and not fit but no one takes one clean shot better than Mayorga, it was only his conditioning, hed slow down and start taking too many of them. Which is why I give him a very good chance if this fight does happen because of the rounds he has under his belt from the Walker fight.

Im not saying its a massive acheivment beating walker but it is impressive for a 37 year old that hasnt fought for over 2 years to come in at a months notice and fight a naturally stronger, younger opponent and have enough stamina to go on to the 9th round and put that man down. Andy Lee may be no great shakes but hes a big, young Emannual Steward fighter and he couldnt deck Walker. So all in all that was a very good result for Ricardo and it puts him in a position he hasnt been in the last 4 or 5 years. Hes going in to a big fight not rusty. He can start sharper and also now has a fitness base for this next training camp and not a shed load of weight to lose either.

It is officially happening now as well!

Arum Expects Wild Verbal War With Cotto, Mayorga, King - Boxing News

are you kidding me? lol Mosley has only been dropped once, and it was caused by a headbutt, Mayorga has been put on his ass numerous times (albeit in only two fights), the fact that Mosley went tooth and nail with a PRIME DLH for 24 rounds and Mayorga couldn't even manage to get to the 10th against Oscar when he was starting to fade pretty much wraps up who has/had the better chin

yeah but you got to remember Mayorga has only been stopped at 154, at 147 you could argue how much better his chin was, because he'd never ever been hurt at that weight class and took Forrest's shots easily. At 154 Mayorga was beat by some of the very hardest punchers up there, Mosley, De La Hoya, and Trinidad. 154 is not Mayorga's weight class he was best at, 147 was. So it could be argued that his chin at 147 was unquestionable.

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yeah but you got to remember Mayorga has only been stopped at 154, at 147 you could argue how much better his chin was, because he'd never ever been hurt at that weight class and took Forrest's shots easily. At 154 Mayorga was beat by some of the very hardest punchers up there, Mosley, De La Hoya, and Trinidad. 154 is not Mayorga's weight class he was best at, 147 was. So it could be argued that his chin at 147 was unquestionable.

I think him being stopped since his move up is the fact he doesnt have to train as hard to get down anymore. You are right though, he was granite down at Welter!

[Hulk]

I love how nearly half of the posters on here were picking YURI FOREMAN to beat Cotto.

And now suddenly they think Mayorga has no chance at beating Cotto.

I supported Cotto against Clottey, and he pulled it out in a close tough fight, and I damn sure supported Cotto to for sure beat Foreman.

But Mayorga is my favorite fighter, has been for 5 years, and I must support him if this fight comes off.

Mayorga most certainly has a chance in this fight, Cotto is not the same undefeated fighter who beat Zab Judah and edged out Mosley (who by the way refused to use his jab what so ever in that fight).

[Master]

It is a long time since mayorga has had a great performance, he has been matched carefully and making a name from big defeats. Whilst Cotto resistance is not the best, this is a perfect fight for him, I would be more worried for Cotto fighting Berto.

[TitoFan]

Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...

Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways

Your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. I hope you're not too emotionally affected if and when Cotto knocks out Mayorga.

I dont hate Cotto, in fact I dont really follow any of his fights. His style is quite dull and boring he doesnt have a higher gear to get in to a real tear up and from what iv seen, when his opponents turn it up or dont wilt he just gives up on his knees. I just love Mayorgas style and if its Cotto he has to crush on his way then so be it.

One fight where he saves himself from further damage from the possibly plastered gloves of Margarito by taking a knee (oh... and the detail of having had his nose broken in the 2nd round)... and you deem it appropriate to generalize the entire fighter that way?!?!? It's painfully obvious you haven't seen any of his wars where's he's left it all out on the ring, and has taken the punishment and kept on fighting.

Well... you yourself said it a few lines further up. You don't "really follow any of his fights". 'Cause if you did, you'd realize just how ludicruous and delusional your post really is. A bit of advice from a real boxing fan: If you don't know what the hell you're talking about, don't say anything at all.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...

Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways

Your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. I hope you're not too emotionally affected if and when Cotto knocks out Mayorga.

I dont hate Cotto, in fact I dont really follow any of his fights. His style is quite dull and boring he doesnt have a higher gear to get in to a real tear up and from what iv seen, when his opponents turn it up or dont wilt he just gives up on his knees. I just love Mayorgas style and if its Cotto he has to crush on his way then so be it.

One fight where he saves himself from further damage from the possibly plastered gloves of Margarito by taking a knee (oh... and the detail of having had his nose broken in the 2nd round)... and you deem it appropriate to generalize the entire fighter that way?!?!? It's painfully obvious you haven't seen any of his wars where's he's left it all out on the ring, and has taken the punishment and kept on fighting.

Well... you yourself said it a few lines further up. You don't "really follow any of his fights". 'Cause if you did, you'd realize just how ludicruous and delusional your post really is. A bit of advice from a real boxing fan: If you don't know what the hell you're talking about, don't say anything at all.

thing is, i find it hilarious that a Tyson fan of all people is trying to slam another fighter for "quitting" lol

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Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...

Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways

Your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. I hope you're not too emotionally affected if and when Cotto knocks out Mayorga.

I dont hate Cotto, in fact I dont really follow any of his fights. His style is quite dull and boring he doesnt have a higher gear to get in to a real tear up and from what iv seen, when his opponents turn it up or dont wilt he just gives up on his knees. I just love Mayorgas style and if its Cotto he has to crush on his way then so be it.

One fight where he saves himself from further damage from the possibly plastered gloves of Margarito by taking a knee (oh... and the detail of having had his nose broken in the 2nd round)... and you deem it appropriate to generalize the entire fighter that way?!?!? It's painfully obvious you haven't seen any of his wars where's he's left it all out on the ring, and has taken the punishment and kept on fighting.

Well... you yourself said it a few lines further up. You don't "really follow any of his fights". 'Cause if you did, you'd realize just how ludicruous and delusional your post really is. A bit of advice from a real boxing fan: If you don't know what the hell you're talking about, don't say anything at all.

thing is, i find it hilarious that a Tyson fan of all people is trying to slam another fighter for "quitting" lol

Mike in his first loss certainly didn't take a knee. Mike quiting came about 14 yers later

Mike ripped through a division then stopped training. Cot to just isn't that good.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...

Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways

Your hate for Cotto oozes out of your pores. I hope you're not too emotionally affected if and when Cotto knocks out Mayorga.

I dont hate Cotto, in fact I dont really follow any of his fights. His style is quite dull and boring he doesnt have a higher gear to get in to a real tear up and from what iv seen, when his opponents turn it up or dont wilt he just gives up on his knees. I just love Mayorgas style and if its Cotto he has to crush on his way then so be it.

One fight where he saves himself from further damage from the possibly plastered gloves of Margarito by taking a knee (oh... and the detail of having had his nose broken in the 2nd round)... and you deem it appropriate to generalize the entire fighter that way?!?!? It's painfully obvious you haven't seen any of his wars where's he's left it all out on the ring, and has taken the punishment and kept on fighting.

Well... you yourself said it a few lines further up. You don't "really follow any of his fights". 'Cause if you did, you'd realize just how ludicruous and delusional your post really is. A bit of advice from a real boxing fan: If you don't know what the hell you're talking about, don't say anything at all.

thing is, i find it hilarious that a Tyson fan of all people is trying to slam another fighter for "quitting" lol

Mike in his first loss certainly didn't take a knee. Mike quiting came about 14 yers later

Mike ripped through a division then stopped training. Cot to just isn't that good.

Cotto never quit by ripping off his opponents ear

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Cotto will never also unify a division or beat his own divisions best. He's not that good

[ElTerribleMorales]

Cotto will never also unify a division or beat his own divisions best. He's not that good

no, the difference is the divisions that Cotto has fought in ARE THAT GOOD, not filled up by nobodies and has beens like when Tyson did

sorry no way you try to spin it Tyson beat Berbick (who's biggest win was against a shaky shot Ali), Tucker (who made it a close fight and hurt Tyson), and Bonecrusher Smith who well already isn't even known when it comes to a historical standpoint, when Larry Holmes is the biggest W on your record and the fight took place in the 90's onward it doesn't really mean much, but hey Tyson either got whooped or quit everytime he stepped it up, why? cause compared to true greats like Holyfield and Lewis, well Michael Gerard Tyson just wasn't that good

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Cotto will never also unify a division or beat his own divisions best. He's not that good

no, the difference is the divisions that Cotto has fought in ARE THAT GOOD, not filled up by nobodies and has beens like when Tyson did


sorry no way you try to spin it Tyson beat Berbick (who's biggest win was against a shaky shot Ali), Tucker (who made it a close fight and hurt Tyson), and Bonecrusher Smith who well already isn't even known when it comes to a historical standpoint, when Larry Holmes is the biggest W on your record and the fight took place in the 90's onward it doesn't really mean much, but hey Tyson either got whooped or quit everytime he stepped it quoting quoting, why? cause compared to true greats like Holyfield and Lewis, well Michael Gerard Tyson just wasn't that good

Cotto will never be on any greatest lists but Tyson is.

You try to make Cotto sound better than he is by discrediting fighters from different eras and weight classes that are in the hall of fame

Cotto is that good that most people think that Mayorga can beat him.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Cotto will never also unify a division or beat his own divisions best. He's not that good

no, the difference is the divisions that Cotto has fought in ARE THAT GOOD, not filled up by nobodies and has beens like when Tyson did


sorry no way you try to spin it Tyson beat Berbick (who's biggest win was against a shaky shot Ali), Tucker (who made it a close fight and hurt Tyson), and Bonecrusher Smith who well already isn't even known when it comes to a historical standpoint, when Larry Holmes is the biggest W on your record and the fight took place in the 90's onward it doesn't really mean much, but hey Tyson either got whooped or quit everytime he stepped it quoting quoting, why? cause compared to true greats like Holyfield and Lewis, well Michael Gerard Tyson just wasn't that good

Cotto will never be on any greatest lists but Tyson is.

You try to make Cotto sound better than he is by discrediting fighters from different eras and weight classes that are in the hall of fame

Cotto is that good that most people think that Mayorga can beat him.

hahaha only person on Tyson's record that have lost to him that are in the hall of fame is Holmes haha maybe Spinks, other than that the rest will be Holyfield and well Lewis, the two guys who gave him the worst ass whoopings of his career, we know Douglas isn't getting in

again, most the guys on here saying that Mayorga is ANY REAL THREAT to Cotto are smoking some strong hashish, either way, since when has your opinion been taken seriously on here haha

here is a guy commenting and trying to slam a fighter who's fights he hasn't even watched, sad, very sad son haha

[TitoFan]

Cotto will never also unify a division or beat his own divisions best. He's not that good

no, the difference is the divisions that Cotto has fought in ARE THAT GOOD, not filled up by nobodies and has beens like when Tyson did


sorry no way you try to spin it Tyson beat Berbick (who's biggest win was against a shaky shot Ali), Tucker (who made it a close fight and hurt Tyson), and Bonecrusher Smith who well already isn't even known when it comes to a historical standpoint, when Larry Holmes is the biggest W on your record and the fight took place in the 90's onward it doesn't really mean much, but hey Tyson either got whooped or quit everytime he stepped it quoting quoting, why? cause compared to true greats like Holyfield and Lewis, well Michael Gerard Tyson just wasn't that good

Cotto will never be on any greatest lists but Tyson is.

You try to make Cotto sound better than he is by discrediting fighters from different eras and weight classes that are in the hall of fame

Cotto is that good that most people think that Mayorga can beat him.

hahaha only person on Tyson's record that have lost to him that are in the hall of fame is Holmes haha maybe Spinks, other than that the rest will be Holyfield and well Lewis, the two guys who gave him the worst ass whoopings of his career, we know Douglas isn't getting in

again, most the guys on here saying that Mayorga is ANY REAL THREAT to Cotto are smoking some strong hashish, either way, since when has your opinion been taken seriously on here haha

here is a guy commenting and trying to slam a fighter who's fights he hasn't even watched, sad, very sad son haha

Hey El Terrible... quit picking on this guy. He obviously lives in some sort of parallel universe where he's seen Cotto quit lots of times (his words) by taking knees. I believe it's a country in Planet Delusion.

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Cotto will never also unify a division or beat his own divisions best. He's not that good

no, the difference is the divisions that Cotto has fought in ARE THAT GOOD, not filled up by nobodies and has beens like when Tyson did


sorry no way you try to spin it Tyson beat Berbick (who's biggest win was against a shaky shot Ali), Tucker (who made it a close fight and hurt Tyson), and Bonecrusher Smith who well already isn't even known when it comes to a historical standpoint, when Larry Holmes is the biggest W on your record and the fight took place in the 90's onward it doesn't really mean much, but hey Tyson either got whooped or quit everytime he stepped it quoting quoting, why? cause compared to true greats like Holyfield and Lewis, well Michael Gerard Tyson just wasn't that good

Cotto will never be on any greatest lists but Tyson is.

You try to make Cotto sound better than he is by discrediting fighters from different eras and weight classes that are in the hall of fame

Cotto is that good that most people think that Mayorga can beat him.

hahaha only person on Tyson's record that have lost to him that are in the hall of fame is Holmes haha maybe Spinks, other than that the rest will be Holyfield and well Lewis, the two guys who gave him the worst ass whoopings of his career, we know Douglas isn't getting in

again, most the guys on here saying that Mayorga is ANY REAL THREAT to Cotto are smoking some strong hashish, either way, since when has your opinion been taken seriously on here haha

here is a guy commenting and trying to slam a fighter who's fights he hasn't even watched, sad, very sad son haha

Hey El Terrible... quit picking on this guy. He obviously lives in some sort of parallel universe where he's seen Cotto quit lots of times (his words) by taking knees. I believe it's a country in Planet Delusion.

Not lots of times. Just the times he fought anyone decent in their prime