Does Pacquiao deserve all the hate???

[fan johnny]

If it's not a big deal for fighters to move down a whole weight class why the drama when Cotto moves down a single pound, and Margarito moves UP half a division for fights with Pac?

Perfect logic and straight to the point Mr. Baggins. Miles is a bit off in this topic IMO.

He wants Pac to move down to face Marquez but he doesnt give full credit to Pac for asking Cotto to move down 1lb.

The ironic thing is that the haters of Manny actually rate him higher than his fans. They just take for granted that he can move up and down between about three weight classes and smash 'joke' opposition like Antonio Margarito and Shane Mosley.

The criticisms against him are amazing. I mean at welterweight he has beaten Oscar, Cotto, Clottey, Margo at 150 and is now fighting Shane Mosley.

When Floyd when up to welter he fought Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah coming off a loss to Carlos Baldomir, then Baldo himself in a fight where he danced around the ring for 12 rounds and refused to engage for a second. He then dragged up Hatton and Marquez to fight him (I give him full props for fighting Oscar at 154 however, to me that WAS a big deal considering how many divisions Floyd climbed to ultimately get that fight).

Manny basically immediately has fought all the guys Floyd dodged for years and has literally battered them around the ring, and some people can just gripe 'Oh but he made him lose a pound! This win means nothing! NOTHING!'.

Let's face it, if Miles was present to witness Jesus feed the 5000 with 5 loaves and 3 fish or whatever he would be like 'Cod? COD? This is just common cod and white bread! Why didn't he make us some nice sea bass and a nice French loaf?' Bah! Rubbish, call himself the Messiah!!

Hey, don't forget to criticize Pacquiao for not fight Sergio Martinez.

[Gandalf]

If it's not a big deal for fighters to move down a whole weight class why the drama when Cotto moves down a single pound, and Margarito moves UP half a division for fights with Pac?

Perfect logic and straight to the point Mr. Baggins. Miles is a bit off in this topic IMO.

He wants Pac to move down to face Marquez but he doesnt give full credit to Pac for asking Cotto to move down 1lb.

The ironic thing is that the haters of Manny actually rate him higher than his fans. They just take for granted that he can move up and down between about three weight classes and smash 'joke' opposition like Antonio Margarito and Shane Mosley.

The criticisms against him are amazing. I mean at welterweight he has beaten Oscar, Cotto, Clottey, Margo at 150 and is now fighting Shane Mosley.

When Floyd when up to welter he fought Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah coming off a loss to Carlos Baldomir, then Baldo himself in a fight where he danced around the ring for 12 rounds and refused to engage for a second. He then dragged up Hatton and Marquez to fight him (I give him full props for fighting Oscar at 154 however, to me that WAS a big deal considering how many divisions Floyd climbed to ultimately get that fight).

Manny basically immediately has fought all the guys Floyd dodged for years and has literally battered them around the ring, and some people can just gripe 'Oh but he made him lose a pound! This win means nothing! NOTHING!'.

Let's face it, if Miles was present to witness Jesus feed the 5000 with 5 loaves and 3 fish or whatever he would be like 'Cod? COD? This is just common cod and white bread! Why didn't he make us some nice sea bass and a nice French loaf?' Bah! Rubbish, call himself the Messiah!!

Hey, don't forget to criticize Pacquiao for not fight Sergio Martinez.

Margarito at 151 or Martinez at 154?

Which of those fights is the more meaningful? The Margarito was for show only and to keep the money in house. It didn't show us that Pac could fight the best fighter in the division at the correct stipulated weight. Again people were quite vocal in their criticism's of the fight beforehand.

Again, we shouldn't sugar coat it and make it out to be something extraordinary. Margarito wasn't even a proper JMW and certainly wasn't the best in the division. He hasn't proven that at all, on recent form he wasn't even the best at WW.

But okay, we are moving back down to WW and now that Mosley is hitting 40 and hasn't looked good after a massive layoff, the time is right. It is so cynical and calculated.

[Master]

What Manny Pac has done deserves credit and cannot be emulated by any fighter today.

[Julius Rain]

haters will hate, great fighters will continue to be great and Julius Rain will sit back and watch....occasionally poke at deluded haters

[miron_lang]

What Manny Pac has done deserves credit and cannot be emulated by any fighter today.

Cherry picking tailor made opponent
Weight draining opponent
PEDS
Selecting shot fighters


all of these cannot be all true if we are talking logically here. But some of Manny's detractors have used all of these things against him.


Why would Pac need PEDS if he is fighting shot fighters?
Why would Pac weight drain opponent if they are tailor made for him anyway?

It doesn't add up.


but i agree Pac should have not chosen Mosley. Berto is the right choice but given that i can see these things being said if that was the case


- Berto is overrated
- Berto has not beaten an elite fighter
- Pac is cherry picking the unproven Berto



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