Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Erik Morales close for April 16th 2011, MGM Grand

[Spicoli]

The words Marquez and chicken shit have never occupied the same room. 135-140 it dont matter...Morales legs wont keep up with his heart, he'll be stationary.

It matters to Morales. He hasn't fought below 140 in his last 3 fights. He does not need an additional disadvantage to what he already has.

I think this fight may be at JMM's terms since Morales should be the one desperate for this fight. Even at 140, I think Marquez wins this one so why not go for the higher weight to test himself and bring himself closer to a fight with Manny. If this fight is at 135, then it appears that he has relinguish his desire for that third fight.

Jmms a nice guy but it's not about doing favors for your opponent. 5 lbs either way on a past it fighter is lipstick on a pig. Marquez was out of his weight class and at least out weighed by 8-10 lbs unofficially vs Mayweather. How much more testing does he need.

He was outclassed by the BEST fighter in the world. That does not mean he can't be effective above at 147 or moreso at 140. Right?

Was the point yeh. He's been up...certainly doesn't need a testing ground or to send Manny an olive branch to show he's wanting a fight. He gets one he can dictate terms in vs Morales, he calls the shots. Manny knows where to find him and I think Marquez would jump at the chance. Hey that was good. 147 and above with his style, age though is a no go vs another I believe.

[miron_lang]

It'll do okay cuz both fighters have there loyal followers.

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Morales have his loyal followers Marquez doesnt. But it should be enough to make money.

Yes I'm sure from the Philippines you can gauge every fighters following, right? Not bad off a 10 inch black and white TV.

As expected.





I have news for you.

Juan Manuel Marquez fought a popular fighter named Michael Katsidis.

Fight fans in attendance : 4, 970


I would like to request that you at least think for a few minutes before posting about your favorite fighters. Because it appears that you're either lying or you have no idea at all.


Just to rationalize things : JMM is not behind Barrera or Morales in terms of Boxing skills...But he's way behind in terms of fan following.

[miron_lang]

Despite what you think, i think Marquez does have loyal followers.

Of course Techinically he has. But can you compare it to Morales and Barrera's ??


Less than 5K fans attended his last fight. Have you ever thought of Morales or Barrera drawing less than 5K people? considering he fought Michael Katsidis.

[Violent Demise]

It'll do okay cuz both fighters have there loyal followers.

.

Morales have his loyal followers Marquez doesnt. But it should be enough to make money.

Yes I'm sure from the Philippines you can gauge every fighters following, right? Not bad off a 10 inch black and white TV.

As expected.





I have news for you.

Juan Manuel Marquez fought a popular fighter named Michael Katsidis.

Fight fans in attendance : 4, 970


I would like to request that you at least think for a few minutes before posting about your favorite fighters. Because it appears that you're either lying or you have no idea at all.


Just to rationalize things : JMM is not behind Barrera or Morales in terms of Boxing skills...But he's way behind in terms of fan following.

That's what your basing it on? Damn your an idiot. Katsidis was a fucking tune-up. Only a fool (you most likely) would expect 60k for a tune-up. Except for 15 seconds in one of the early rounds the fight was dominated by Marquez. And Katsidis might be a God in your little country. But he ain't popular in the US. I don't know where the fuck you got that from. Katsidis rep in the US is set in stone already. He's a B fighter who's brought in to provide a little excitement WHILE losing to better fighters.

And Marquez trails Morales and Barrera in fan following. Yeah ok. 1 + 1 = 2. What's your fucking point for stating the obvious? Nobody ever said Marquez didn't trail them. Hell I think he trails his brother in that department as well. Oh wait. His brother didn't draw 50k for his fight with Lopez. So there is no way he or Lopez for that matter have followings.

[miron_lang]

It'll do okay cuz both fighters have there loyal followers.

.

Morales have his loyal followers Marquez doesnt. But it should be enough to make money.

Yes I'm sure from the Philippines you can gauge every fighters following, right? Not bad off a 10 inch black and white TV.

As expected.





I have news for you.

Juan Manuel Marquez fought a popular fighter named Michael Katsidis.

Fight fans in attendance : 4, 970


I would like to request that you at least think for a few minutes before posting about your favorite fighters. Because it appears that you're either lying or you have no idea at all.


Just to rationalize things : JMM is not behind Barrera or Morales in terms of Boxing skills...But he's way behind in terms of fan following.

That's what your basing it on? Damn your an idiot. Katsidis was a fucking tune-up. Only a fool (you most likely) would expect 60k for a tune-up. Except for 15 seconds in one of the early rounds the fight was dominated by Marquez. And Katsidis might be a God in your little country. But he ain't popular in the US. I don't know where the fuck you got that from. Katsidis rep in the US is set in stone already. He's a B fighter who's brought in to provide a little excitement WHILE losing to better fighters.

And Marquez trails Morales and Barrera in fan following. Yeah ok. 1 + 1 = 2. What's your fucking point for stating the obvious? Nobody ever said Marquez didn't trail them. Hell I think he trails his brother in that department as well. Oh wait. His brother didn't draw 50k for his fight with Lopez. So there is no way he or Lopez for that matter have followings.

You said Morales and Marquez had loyal followers.

I said only Morales and i have given you numbers on why this is so.

and now you have this garbage saying Marquez dominated Katsidis which is totally out of the subject we're talking about.

Bottomline : Marquez doesnt have loyal followers.

if you are talking techinical then every fighter have loyal followers. Guys like Corley and Augustus have loyal followers for sure but they probably fill 1K seats Marquez a little less than 5K. I think that settled it?

[bzkfn]

I doubt Morales will make 135.

Just to clarify this, the fight will be at 135 but they're talking April 9th now instead of 16th.

Erik Morales Wants Marquez Fight at The Lightweight Limit - Boxing News

[Rantcatrat]

Was the point yeh. He's been up...certainly doesn't need a testing ground or to send Manny an olive branch to show he's wanting a fight. He gets one he can dictate terms in vs Morales, he calls the shots. Manny knows where to find him and I think Marquez would jump at the chance. Hey that was good. 147 and above with his style, age though is a no go vs another I believe.

I hear you. Then, stick it out at 135, but three gimme's in a row is tiresome.

[Violent Demise]

It'll do okay cuz both fighters have there loyal followers.

.

Morales have his loyal followers Marquez doesnt. But it should be enough to make money.

Yes I'm sure from the Philippines you can gauge every fighters following, right? Not bad off a 10 inch black and white TV.

As expected.





I have news for you.

Juan Manuel Marquez fought a popular fighter named Michael Katsidis.

Fight fans in attendance : 4, 970


I would like to request that you at least think for a few minutes before posting about your favorite fighters. Because it appears that you're either lying or you have no idea at all.


Just to rationalize things : JMM is not behind Barrera or Morales in terms of Boxing skills...But he's way behind in terms of fan following.

That's what your basing it on? Damn your an idiot. Katsidis was a fucking tune-up. Only a fool (you most likely) would expect 60k for a tune-up. Except for 15 seconds in one of the early rounds the fight was dominated by Marquez. And Katsidis might be a God in your little country. But he ain't popular in the US. I don't know where the fuck you got that from. Katsidis rep in the US is set in stone already. He's a B fighter who's brought in to provide a little excitement WHILE losing to better fighters.

And Marquez trails Morales and Barrera in fan following. Yeah ok. 1 + 1 = 2. What's your fucking point for stating the obvious? Nobody ever said Marquez didn't trail them. Hell I think he trails his brother in that department as well. Oh wait. His brother didn't draw 50k for his fight with Lopez. So there is no way he or Lopez for that matter have followings.

You said Morales and Marquez had loyal followers.

I said only Morales and i have given you numbers on why this is so.

and now you have this garbage saying Marquez dominated Katsidis which is totally out of the subject we're talking about.

Bottomline : Marquez doesnt have loyal followers.

if you are talking techinical then every fighter have loyal followers. Guys like Corley and Augustus have loyal followers for sure but they probably fill 1K seats Marquez a little less than 5K. I think that settled it?

That's cuz you see it from a misguided way. In your little country everybody from your grandma to 4 year old sister all suck Manny Pacquiao's dick. There's nothing else there. So you think if a fighter doesn't have that type of following than they don't have a following. It don't work that way. Marquez following trails Morales and Barrera. And his brothers. But it's there

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Yes I'm sure from the Philippines you can gauge every fighters following, right? Not bad off a 10 inch black and white TV.

In your little country everybody from your grandma to 4 year old sister all suck Manny Pacquiao's dick. There's nothing else there.

Why do you have to be racist? This discussion does not have anything to do with a country and its people.

Juan Manuel Marquez has his loyal followers but they pale in comparison to those of Barrera and Morales in their prime.

[MMASUX]

Despite what you think, i think Marquez does have loyal followers.

Of course Techinically he has. But can you compare it to Morales and Barrera's ??


Less than 5K fans attended his last fight. Have you ever thought of Morales or Barrera drawing less than 5K people? considering he fought Michael Katsidis.

Granted the fight did have a small crowd, i think it had more to do with it being 2 days after thanksgiving. This is a very big holiday here in the US, and most people are traveling and spending time with family from that Thursday-sunday. You put that fight on any other date and i think it does extremely well.

[Violent Demise]

Yes I'm sure from the Philippines you can gauge every fighters following, right? Not bad off a 10 inch black and white TV.

In your little country everybody from your grandma to 4 year old sister all suck Manny Pacquiao's dick. There's nothing else there.

Why do you have to be racist? This discussion does not have anything to do with a country and its people.

Juan Manuel Marquez has his loyal followers but they pale in comparison to those of Barrera and Morales in their prime.

Stop being a sensitive little bitch. There was nothing racist about my posts.

And I have yet to see anybody say Marquez following doesn't trail Morales or Barrera's. So again I see no reason why that's even brought up

[miron_lang]

see how we are talking about MAB, Erik and JMM and you bring out Manny Pacquiao?


Pac is the Greatest! uLOL


hahahahaha

[ElTerribleMorales]

see how we are talking about MAB, Erik and JMM and you bring out Manny Pacquiao?


Pac is the Greatest! uLOL


hahahahaha

Pacquiao is the only freaking fighter you know about, and sorry Robinson is the greatest in the history of the sport, hell Ali is still a league ahead of Pacquiao

[Violent Demise]

see how we are talking about MAB, Erik and JMM and you bring out Manny Pacquiao?


Pac is the Greatest! uLOL


hahahahaha

Like that wasn't what you were waiting for. It's the reason you avoided the point and just pounced on the name itself.

[miron_lang]

see how we are talking about MAB, Erik and JMM and you bring out Manny Pacquiao?


Pac is the Greatest! uLOL


hahahahaha

Like that wasn't what you were waiting for. It's the reason you avoided the point and just pounced on the name itself.

Avoided the point?


Marquez doesnt have a loyal following like Morales.

It'll do okay cuz both fighters have there loyal followers.

this is what you said. Its correct technically but Morales probably brings in 85% of the crowd.