Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.

[rjj tszyu]

Lyle read this and take it in. Haye brings far more money to the table than Wlad FACT.

OK, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Let's say he brings in more money than Wlad....how much more? Can you put a real number out there for me is it £2? £2 million? £20 million? Also allow me to ask you what would be the biggest money fight for the WBA title holder and why?

Also let's see again who rejected the fight, it wasn't Wlad. Wlad said "I'm good to go July 2nd after the Chisora fight"...so it seems to me that once again for some odd reason the WBA title holder and his camp are trying to make sure Wlad has been out of the ring a long time before he has this match up.

How so? Haye has agreed to July 2nd, he agreed to every concession. He'd have agreed a May or June date if Wlad had accepted, but apparently no arena in Germany was available in that time. Fine...stadiums in UK are available, but apparently that was deemed unacceptable despite the FACT that Wlad said he would fight Haye anytime, any place. I'm baffled as to how every major arena in Germany is unavailable in May or June. Football season is over in May, so why aren't they available?

Its all Bollocks. Wlad just doesn't want to fight Haye. It's that simple and Lyle knows it. He's just that far up Wlads arse crack that he daren't admit it!!

[Gandalf]

Lyle read this and take it in. Haye brings far more money to the table than Wlad FACT.

OK, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Let's say he brings in more money than Wlad....how much more? Can you put a real number out there for me is it £2? £2 million? £20 million? Also allow me to ask you what would be the biggest money fight for the WBA title holder and why?

Also let's see again who rejected the fight, it wasn't Wlad. Wlad said "I'm good to go July 2nd after the Chisora fight"...so it seems to me that once again for some odd reason the WBA title holder and his camp are trying to make sure Wlad has been out of the ring a long time before he has this match up.

How so? Haye has agreed to July 2nd, he agreed to every concession. He'd have agreed a May or June date if Wlad had accepted, but apparently no arena in Germany was available in that time. Fine...stadiums in UK are available, but apparently that was deemed unacceptable despite the FACT that Wlad said he would fight Haye anytime, any place. I'm baffled as to how every major arena in Germany is unavailable in May or June. Football season is over in May, so why aren't they available?

Its all Bollocks. Wlad just doesn't want to fight Haye. It's that simple and Lyle knows it. He's just that far up Wlads arse crack that he daren't admit it!!

Lyle? Biased? Unable to see reason? Well I never!

The way I see it is that Sky should have asked Khan to fight a month earlier or later. This fight is of far more significance than Khan against Katsidis or whichever LW he is going to pick and choose from. Sky have screwed up here, this is the fight that everyone wants to see. To turn it down because Khan might want priority is absurd.

And yeah as for all that drivel Lyle is spouting about who can earn more. That is just gay talk. What is he Wlad's accountant/bum boy?

[El Kabong]

Spout off against me all you like...but has it ever occured to you that Wlad was giving the WBA title holder a bit of his own medicine? Remember when Wlad refused to wait around after that "back injury" and remember how the WBA title holder kept at him, kept calling him out and saying Wlad was a chicken for not waiting the extra time to fight him? Well now we've found out that the WBA title holder can dish it out but he can't take it.

AND FURTHERMORE!!!!!

If Wlad wanted to fight Chisora and then turn around in 8 weeks and fight a unification match why not what's the harm in that? And if Wlad was bluffing wouldn't you (if you were in the same situation) want to call him on it

The shit don't add up in favor of the WBA title holder...he's the one complaining that the fight didn't get signed and Wlad is the one saying "July 2nd, let's do it"....you Brits can read can't you?

[boxingbantz]

I don't see what Wlad has done wrong to be honest. The offer is there July 2nd. Whether or not he has two fights in nine weeks is Wlad's problem, not David Haye's. Seems like Haye is using the fight with Chisora as an excuse NOT to fight him.

The fight with Haye is not off, the fight is on. We had to get clearance on a date with Sky for pay per view and they we were concerned about conflicting with the Royal wedding. That is set for the end of April and we got clearance on a date of July 2.’

Nothing wrong with what Wladimir has said imo.

[boxingbantz]

One other thing.

Haye thinks that Wlad 'doesn't want to fight him' yet Wlad has said he will fight him July 2nd. The easiest thing to do is to call his bluff. Agree to fight him on July 2nd. If Wlad pulls out (which I very much doubt), fair play, maybe he didn't wanna fight David Haye (even though he twice agreed to). Haye has just come out and said "the fight is off". Sign to fight in July ffs.

David Haye has very cleverly turned this around so it looks like Wlad is ducking him - when that is obviously not the case.

[Violent Demise]

Lyle read this and take it in. Haye brings far more money to the table than Wlad FACT.

OK, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Let's say he brings in more money than Wlad....how much more? Can you put a real number out there for me is it £2? £2 million? £20 million? Also allow me to ask you what would be the biggest money fight for the WBA title holder and why?

Also let's see again who rejected the fight, it wasn't Wlad. Wlad said "I'm good to go July 2nd after the Chisora fight"...so it seems to me that once again for some odd reason the WBA title holder and his camp are trying to make sure Wlad has been out of the ring a long time before he has this match up.

How so? Haye has agreed to July 2nd, he agreed to every concession. He'd have agreed a May or June date if Wlad had accepted, but apparently no arena in Germany was available in that time. Fine...stadiums in UK are available, but apparently that was deemed unacceptable despite the FACT that Wlad said he would fight Haye anytime, any place. I'm baffled as to how every major arena in Germany is unavailable in May or June. Football season is over in May, so why aren't they available?

Its all Bollocks. Wlad just doesn't want to fight Haye. It's that simple and Lyle knows it. He's just that far up Wlads arse crack that he daren't admit it!!

The date is there. July 2nd. What's Haye's answer? Retirement. Pretty obvious who wants out

[boxingbantz]

Glenn McCrory has got it spot on (via the sky website):


Well there's our first disappointment of 2011! Of all the big fights we wanted to see this year, David Haye versus Wladimir Klitschko was top of everybody's list.

I'm no different to any punter out there and like you all, I am gutted that this won't be happening in April. Gutted.

But, on the other hand, it is great news for Dereck Chisora. I was out in Mannheim for the original date and after spending a couple of days with him, I have to admit, was very, very excited about him taking on Wladimir.

He was in wonderful spirits, he was bang up for the fight and I really did get the feeling - and I said it to Dereck on the day of the withdrawal - that something was wrong with Wladimir, he just didn't look the same. I think Chisora surprised him out there, I really do.

When he and his team arrived in their tracksuits, they walked into the public workout looking like champions; he was full of confidence and seemed totally unfazed at the prospect of mixing it with the big boys.


I think Klitschko got the feeling that suddenly it was all a little bit more serious, not the easy defence he first thought, and lo and behold, that very same night he had a back injury.

In the end as far as Dereck is concerned, justice has been done.

But for the rest of us, it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. And as much as I like David, as much as he is a friend of mine, I am getting a little bit tired of him not making this fight.

I know Adam Booth has said they were willing to 'bend over backwards' to make it happen, but come on... this is the heavyweight championship of the world we're talking about here!

Let them have the PPV money, let them have home advantage, let them have whatever corner they want, because if David is confident of beating Wladimir, all that will count for nothing when he does. Take the thin end of the wedge - take any end of the wedge, just get it on!

You can forget mandatory challenges getting in the way as well because they count for diddly squat when a unification showdown comes along. Goalposts can be moved, Don King and Bob Arum can get round a table and make fights happen, the WBC and WBA can work together so why can't Haye and the Klitschko's come to an arrangement?

It's different I know, but when I fought for the world cruiserweight title way back in 1989, I got the princely sum of £7,500. I had two managers back then, so ended up fighting for nothing. But it was for the world title, so it didn't matter.

Undisputed

Maybe it is Klitschko, I don't know; we can only go on what Adam Booth says for now, but I know there are two sides to every story and it takes two to tango, but I haven't seen either brother duck anybody yet.

I have known their manager Bernd Boente for over 20 years and he strikes me as a decent and fair guy. I am not saying Adam Booth isn't by any means, but I still can't get over the fact that David Haye needs this fight, the Klitschko's don't.

We're talking about the undisputed world heavyweight title here and right now, everyone knows the brothers are the boss. They don't have anything to prove, certainly not against a guy who has come up from cruiserweight and is yet to prove himself at this weight.

Wherever I go all people want to talk to me about is boxing and only this afternoon I got picked up by a taxi driver and the first thing he asked me was what I thought of Haye.

I told him he was a very good fighter and could be the best thing that's happened to heavyweight boxing for many a year and he just turned round and said 'yeah, but he hasn't proved himself yet'.

That is the problem for me. David needs to do something and I really did think this might be it. It is so frustrating and as Adam rightly says, it does our sport no good whatsoever. And it does David's image no good whatsoever. Sorry, but this won't tarnish Wladimir's reputation one bit.

But if David is going to retire at the end of the year, he needs to do something fast if he is going to leave any sort of legacy behind. Maybe Vitali is the answer, although this doesn't exactly bode well for a fight with him, does it?

As for Dereck Chisora, I think there is a very, very real chance he could blow the whole thing wide open come April 30...

[Cressa121]

Glenn McCrory has got it spot on (via the sky website):


Well there's our first disappointment of 2011! Of all the big fights we wanted to see this year, David Haye versus Wladimir Klitschko was top of everybody's list.

I'm no different to any punter out there and like you all, I am gutted that this won't be happening in April. Gutted.

But, on the other hand, it is great news for Dereck Chisora. I was out in Mannheim for the original date and after spending a couple of days with him, I have to admit, was very, very excited about him taking on Wladimir.

He was in wonderful spirits, he was bang up for the fight and I really did get the feeling - and I said it to Dereck on the day of the withdrawal - that something was wrong with Wladimir, he just didn't look the same. I think Chisora surprised him out there, I really do.

When he and his team arrived in their tracksuits, they walked into the public workout looking like champions; he was full of confidence and seemed totally unfazed at the prospect of mixing it with the big boys.


I think Klitschko got the feeling that suddenly it was all a little bit more serious, not the easy defence he first thought, and lo and behold, that very same night he had a back injury.

In the end as far as Dereck is concerned, justice has been done.

But for the rest of us, it leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. And as much as I like David, as much as he is a friend of mine, I am getting a little bit tired of him not making this fight.

I know Adam Booth has said they were willing to 'bend over backwards' to make it happen, but come on... this is the heavyweight championship of the world we're talking about here!

Let them have the PPV money, let them have home advantage, let them have whatever corner they want, because if David is confident of beating Wladimir, all that will count for nothing when he does. Take the thin end of the wedge - take any end of the wedge, just get it on!

You can forget mandatory challenges getting in the way as well because they count for diddly squat when a unification showdown comes along. Goalposts can be moved, Don King and Bob Arum can get round a table and make fights happen, the WBC and WBA can work together so why can't Haye and the Klitschko's come to an arrangement?

It's different I know, but when I fought for the world cruiserweight title way back in 1989, I got the princely sum of £7,500. I had two managers back then, so ended up fighting for nothing. But it was for the world title, so it didn't matter.

Undisputed

Maybe it is Klitschko, I don't know; we can only go on what Adam Booth says for now, but I know there are two sides to every story and it takes two to tango, but I haven't seen either brother duck anybody yet.

I have known their manager Bernd Boente for over 20 years and he strikes me as a decent and fair guy. I am not saying Adam Booth isn't by any means, but I still can't get over the fact that David Haye needs this fight, the Klitschko's don't.

We're talking about the undisputed world heavyweight title here and right now, everyone knows the brothers are the boss. They don't have anything to prove, certainly not against a guy who has come up from cruiserweight and is yet to prove himself at this weight.

Wherever I go all people want to talk to me about is boxing and only this afternoon I got picked up by a taxi driver and the first thing he asked me was what I thought of Haye.

I told him he was a very good fighter and could be the best thing that's happened to heavyweight boxing for many a year and he just turned round and said 'yeah, but he hasn't proved himself yet'.

That is the problem for me. David needs to do something and I really did think this might be it. It is so frustrating and as Adam rightly says, it does our sport no good whatsoever. And it does David's image no good whatsoever. Sorry, but this won't tarnish Wladimir's reputation one bit.

But if David is going to retire at the end of the year, he needs to do something fast if he is going to leave any sort of legacy behind. Maybe Vitali is the answer, although this doesn't exactly bode well for a fight with him, does it?

As for Dereck Chisora, I think there is a very, very real chance he could blow the whole thing wide open come April 30...

Yeah he's got it right there. Except the bit about Chisora springing the upset though.

Haye's interview on sky earlier was pathetic, everything he said about Wlad, that he's happy to fight bums, has been calling him out for a while and backed out when it came time to sign the fight and that this fight not happening will damage Wlad's reputation and legacy was far more applicable to Haye than Wlad. If Haye retires in October without fighting and beating one or both of the Klits he'll be forgotten about in 10-15 years, or at least his run at HW will be.

[boxingbantz]

The fact is, the Klits have never ducked anyone. Especially not a glorified cruiserweight.

[skel1983]

The fact is, the Klits have never ducked anyone. Especially not a glorified cruiserweight.

Yes but Wlad has always been the man when coming to the purse and the one pulling the string he has been paying his opponents peanuts compared to what he has been getting this is the first time he is facing a guy who in reality brings alot more money to the table, Haye fucked about with the Audley fight and rightly so I slated him but this is a joke, Wlad should of fucked Del Boy off and fought Haye.

[Violent Demise]

The fact is, the Klits have never ducked anyone. Especially not a glorified cruiserweight.

Yes but Wlad has always been the man when coming to the purse and the one pulling the string he has been paying his opponents peanuts compared to what he has been getting this is the first time he is facing a guy who in reality brings alot more money to the table, Haye fucked about with the Audley fight and rightly so I slated him but this is a joke, Wlad should of fucked Del Boy off and fought Haye.

I see no reason why Wlad can't fight both. Haye has his date. He's choosing not to take it.

[skel1983]

The fact is, the Klits have never ducked anyone. Especially not a glorified cruiserweight.

Yes but Wlad has always been the man when coming to the purse and the one pulling the string he has been paying his opponents peanuts compared to what he has been getting this is the first time he is facing a guy who in reality brings alot more money to the table, Haye fucked about with the Audley fight and rightly so I slated him but this is a joke, Wlad should of fucked Del Boy off and fought Haye.

I see no reason why Wlad can't fight both. Haye has his date. He's choosing not to take it.

I can see that point of view of course mate but what does Haye do now fight soemone else? I just dont know why Wlad needs to fight Del Boy? He would probably get more of a workout with some hard sparring, I think it might be a lpoy to mess with Hayes head.

Haye should fight Vitali.

[boxingbantz]

The fact is, the Klits have never ducked anyone. Especially not a glorified cruiserweight.

Yes but Wlad has always been the man when coming to the purse and the one pulling the string he has been paying his opponents peanuts compared to what he has been getting this is the first time he is facing a guy who in reality brings alot more money to the table, Haye fucked about with the Audley fight and rightly so I slated him but this is a joke, Wlad should of fucked Del Boy off and fought Haye.

I see no reason why Wlad can't fight both. Haye has his date. He's choosing not to take it.

I can see that point of view of course mate but what does Haye do now fight soemone else? I just dont know why Wlad needs to fight Del Boy? He would probably get more of a workout with some hard sparring, I think it might be a lpoy to mess with Hayes head.

Haye should fight Vitali.

Haye will never fight Vitali.

Against Wladimir, Haye knows there is a chance he could knock him out.

Against Vitali, someone who hasn't even touched the canvas before, he has no chance.

[rjj tszyu]

He's just faked one injury to avoid fighting ffs. What makes you think he won't do i again? It's sad listening to people backing up Wlad. When was the last time a high profile champ had 2 fights in 8 weeks? Boxing is politics and Haye knows it as does Wlad and the bitch knew by signing to fight Chisora he would jeopardise the Haye fight. What a fucking homosexual prick.

[CFH]

He's just faked one injury to avoid fighting ffs. What makes you think he won't do i again? It's sad listening to people backing up Wlad. When was the last time a high profile champ had 2 fights in 8 weeks? Boxing is politics and Haye knows it as does Wlad and the bitch knew by signing to fight Chisora he would jeopardise the Haye fight. What a fucking homosexual prick.

Didn't Haye pull out of a fight with Wlad because of a suspect 'back injury'?