Berto v Ortiz in negotiations for April 16th

[Spicoli]

They are both well beyond 140. Look at Ortizs lats and wing span right now...he has 154 written all over it. Bertos stocky as all hell and negates his speed more and more.........this is a healthy needed match of two guys with frankly limitations as far as the elites go. Bit of a chance to throw them in the fire and cancel one out. Both young and still green after all this time.

It'll be a draw....ok I lean towards Ortiz

[Hulk]

What happened to Berto facing Randal Bailey ?

[Ant Live]

What happened to Berto facing Randal Bailey ?

Randal Bailey would be a lose/lose fight for Berto. Although I think Berto would win, what really would he have won? Fight Bailey is no where near as big of a fight as Bradley vs Alexander. And ultimately teh sweepstakes is to fight Pacman. You will have to say the winner of Bradley vs Alexander wil be ranked P4P higher then Berto. Berto needs to close the gap by fighting someone with more of a challenge and threat. And not to mention, star potential!!!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ortiz is a big jr welterweight, and easily could compete at welter, if he's in the right mindset i think he can surprise quite a few people and give Berto hell, i mean he's a powerful southpaw, with an awkward style, decent speed, i'd say better power and a good variety of punches, and well to me at least Berto has had question marks all over his chin since the Cosme Rivera fight (where his corner had to cut off his glove to buy him time), should be a good fight and Ortiz is a lot more credible than Bailey or some other no name at welter

[The Fightfan]

I think this would be a solid fight. Like most have stated Ortiz looks bigger at 140 than most. Berto looks to be a bit small at welterweight. This could be a great clash if it happens.

[Rantcatrat]

Not a bad fight at all.

[TheMacMagician]

Ortiz is a big jr welterweight, and easily could compete at welter, if he's in the right mindset i think he can surprise quite a few people and give Berto hell, i mean he's a powerful southpaw, with an awkward style, decent speed, i'd say better power and a good variety of punches, and well to me at least Berto has had question marks all over his chin since the Cosme Rivera fight (where his corner had to cut off his glove to buy him time), should be a good fight and Ortiz is a lot more credible than Bailey or some other no name at welter

Not so sure about that one El............

Berto won't be fighting Bailey or someone like Aydin anytime soon I wouldn't say, he'd get sparked by both IMO. The same Berto that hugged and clinched the hell out of Juan Urango in the hope of not getting iced.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ortiz is a big jr welterweight, and easily could compete at welter, if he's in the right mindset i think he can surprise quite a few people and give Berto hell, i mean he's a powerful southpaw, with an awkward style, decent speed, i'd say better power and a good variety of punches, and well to me at least Berto has had question marks all over his chin since the Cosme Rivera fight (where his corner had to cut off his glove to buy him time), should be a good fight and Ortiz is a lot more credible than Bailey or some other no name at welter

Not so sure about that one El............

Berto won't be fighting Bailey or someone like Aydin anytime soon I wouldn't say, he'd get sparked by both IMO.

are you kidding me? i'm not high on Berto what so ever, but Ortiz would ruin Bailey at this stage as would Berto, Randall Bailey has always been chinny and easy to find, he's nothing more than a B level fighter with loads of power but no chin or stamina to match, if Urango knocked him the fuck out, Ortiz and Berto would wreck the guy badly

[TheMacMagician]

Ortiz is a big jr welterweight, and easily could compete at welter, if he's in the right mindset i think he can surprise quite a few people and give Berto hell, i mean he's a powerful southpaw, with an awkward style, decent speed, i'd say better power and a good variety of punches, and well to me at least Berto has had question marks all over his chin since the Cosme Rivera fight (where his corner had to cut off his glove to buy him time), should be a good fight and Ortiz is a lot more credible than Bailey or some other no name at welter

Not so sure about that one El............

Berto won't be fighting Bailey or someone like Aydin anytime soon I wouldn't say, he'd get sparked by both IMO.

are you kidding me? i'm not high on Berto what so ever, but Ortiz would ruin Bailey at this stage as would Berto, Randall Bailey has always been chinny and easy to find, he's nothing more than a B level fighter with loads of power but no chin or stamina to match, if Urango knocked him the fuck out, Ortiz and Berto would wreck the guy badly

Kidding fine sir I am not. Berto and Ortiz have done nothing to nail it on that they would wreck Bailey. Berto, aside from stopping Quintana, does nothing to impress me at all, and Ortiz, first drop from Bailey would have his heart fall out of his arse. He already straight up quit once.

I like Bailey, especially at welterweight where he's not starvin, and I like hin to quake the boots of Berto.

[Pavlik]

Ortiz is a big jr welterweight, and easily could compete at welter, if he's in the right mindset i think he can surprise quite a few people and give Berto hell, i mean he's a powerful southpaw, with an awkward style, decent speed, i'd say better power and a good variety of punches, and well to me at least Berto has had question marks all over his chin since the Cosme Rivera fight (where his corner had to cut off his glove to buy him time), should be a good fight and Ortiz is a lot more credible than Bailey or some other no name at welter

Totally agree, both are really good guys. Winner here should get a superfight somewhere(This fight if it happens is a superfight already, more explosive than Alexander-Bradley IMO)

[No Contest]

Why doesnt he fight his mandatory that he's been putting off? The turkish guy, Aydin, he's chapped his names not even in the mix. I dont know how Randall Bailey leapfrogged him, now Ortiz I can understand a bit.

[TheMacMagician]

Why doesnt he fight his mandatory that he's been putting off? The turkish guy, Aydin, he's chapped his names not even in the mix. I dont know how Randall Bailey leapfrogged him, now Ortiz I can understand a bit.

Don't know if anyone has read this already.....

Selcuk Aydin: "Berto can’t fight Ortiz – he has to face me now!"