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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Did think it was on "break" but never showed full replay....end of the day though shame on Edouard. Ref was no where in picture and carrying thru command so its on him to cover his own ass, props to Manfredo for shifting it with one shot. Really thought corner might stop it late, was there to be tko'd I believe

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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Did think it was on "break" but never showed full replay....end of the day though shame on Edouard. Ref was no where in picture and carrying thru command so its on him to cover his own ass, props to Manfredo for shifting it with one shot. Really thought corner might stop it late, was there to be tko'd I believe
    I recorded the fight on DVR and played it back several times and the ref stepped in close to the fighters and looked to instruct them to break.

    Eduarod then followed instructions and relaxed, while Manfredo sucker punched him, changing the entire fight.

    Also if you watch closely, after Manfredo knocks Eduorad down, he looks at the ref, as if waiting to be scolded, then once he sees the ref is not going to scold him but in fact count it as a knockdown, THEN Manfredo puts his arm up and goes to the nuetral corner.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Looking back it probably was, but Eduoard should have been protecting himself. Boxing is a dangerous game and fighters will try to take advantage of a situation and that happened here. It cost him the fight IMO as he was looking really good until that point.

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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Yeah i think it was looking at it



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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Looking back it probably was, but Eduoard should have been protecting himself. Boxing is a dangerous game and fighters will try to take advantage of a situation and that happened here. It cost him the fight IMO as he was looking really good until that point.
    Yes it cost him the fight. And Eduoard shouldn't have dropped his hands, BUT it happens.

    If anyone remembers what happened in Hopkins vs. Echols I, Bernard himself relaxed as the ref came in and seperated them and told them to break then Echols clocked Bernard and dropped him. Echols then was penalized and Bernard was given time to recover.

    I believe that is what should have happened here.
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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Thanks for replay. Nah, Ref was non factor...a verbal bark in the heat of it is just that. He didnt assert it at all, step in or even motion and dont think he needed to, there was nothing there to break in the first place? Manfredo did what more guys should and 'punched out' of close quarters and was hook-hook combo. Edourd got caught napping...literally.

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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Thanks for replay. Nah, Ref was non factor...a verbal bark in the heat of it is just that. He didnt assert it at all, step in or even motion and dont think he needed to, there was nothing there to break in the first place? Manfredo did what more guys should and 'punched out' of close quarters and was hook-hook combo. Edourd got caught napping...literally.
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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Ref was just saying your holding. Manfredo kind of knew he got lucky, I think Edouard was expecting a break but it didnt come.

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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    IF IT WAS A suicker puinch i dont think manfredo did it intentionally there were a few instances after were eduardo had his hands down all the way down and manfredo didnt just go in n clock him,

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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Thanks for replay. Nah, Ref was non factor...a verbal bark in the heat of it is just that. He didnt assert it at all, step in or even motion and dont think he needed to, there was nothing there to break in the first place? Manfredo did what more guys should and 'punched out' of close quarters and was hook-hook combo. Edourd got caught napping...literally.
    Have to agree with that one....

    Is it 100% fair to clock your opponent when he relaxes his guard thinking they are both breaking?? Maybe not 100% fair, but if your tired and leaning on your opponent with your hands down, your asking for trouble.. And if your opponent can still throw, you gotta be protecting yourself...
    It was tough to watch because you know Eduoard wasn't expecting it and for it to eventually cost him the fight, that's tough as well.... But I don't feel the ref played enough of a part in the break for Eduoard to relax that much and expect his opponent not to take advantage of it...

    Got really lazy, and payed dearly for it... That is boxing right there!!!!
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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    In Lacy v Reid fight the ref shouted break or stop 3 times and both fighters did stop and looked to the ref, then Lacy turns to Reid and fires a right hook while Reid is talking to the ref!! Then the ref gives Reid a count rather than give him time to recover from an ilegal shot or even warn, take points or disqualify Lacy!

    Reid was known for a good chin up until then but that first ilegal shot took his resiliance away!

    Oh, also! In the same fight, Lacy lands on his ass and the ref actually helps him up but around the same time, Tyson gets pushed to the floor and is sat on his ass, he holds his arm out for the ref to help him up but the ref says he cant because the fighter has to do it himself! So why did the little prick Lacy get given a hand

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    Default Re: Anyone else think that shot Manfredo hit Eduoard with was a cheap shot ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    In Lacy v Reid fight the ref shouted break or stop 3 times and both fighters did stop and looked to the ref, then Lacy turns to Reid and fires a right hook while Reid is talking to the ref!! Then the ref gives Reid a count rather than give him time to recover from an ilegal shot or even warn, take points or disqualify Lacy!

    Reid was known for a good chin up until then but that first ilegal shot took his resiliance away!

    Oh, also! In the same fight, Lacy lands on his ass and the ref actually helps him up but around the same time, Tyson gets pushed to the floor and is sat on his ass, he holds his arm out for the ref to help him up but the ref says he cant because the fighter has to do it himself! So why did the little prick Lacy get given a hand
    Reid v Lacy horrible fight to watch same as when he fought Ottke very frustrating to watch. Even though he probably would have lost against Lacy in the end he was done no favours.

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