Boxers who 'switched' their feet with regularity?

[Taeth]

The best place to switch is where you don't get hit in the process of switching. There is no best specific strategy just like in a fight in general anything can be countered, thus switching up what you do and adapting properly to the situation is the key to success

[Andre]

The best place to switch is where you don't get hit in the process of switching. There is no best specific strategy just like in a fight in general anything can be countered, thus switching up what you do and adapting properly to the situation is the key to success

There are strategies. They are not practiced by boxers at the moment.

The strategies are moving from the inside of someones guard to the outside of someones guard maintaining control over their lead arm while you switch stance around them.

this allows you to end up on the outside (bodily) on their lead arm and so you have two arms against their none for that moment and it is them who has to readjust to where you are,so that is also a benefit to you.

Also you are switching feet which takes you away from their rear arm while taking you to the outside of their lead arm.

Of course this can only be done in certain circumstances) as other strategies are done in other circumstances.

[Taeth]

The best place to switch is where you don't get hit in the process of switching. There is no best specific strategy just like in a fight in general anything can be countered, thus switching up what you do and adapting properly to the situation is the key to success

There are strategies. They are not practiced by boxers at the moment.

The strategies are moving from the inside of someones guard to the outside of someones guard maintaining control over their lead arm while you switch stance around them.

this allows you to end up on the outside (bodily) on their lead arm and so you have two arms against their none for that moment and it is them who has to readjust to where you are,so that is also a benefit to you.

Also you are switching feet which takes you away from their rear arm while taking you to the outside of their lead arm.

Of course this can only be done in certain circumstances) as other strategies are done in other circumstances.

But controlling front arm can easily be countered if somebody has done other martial arts and applies them to boxing. If you rely on one thing you will figured out and beaten.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Hagler, Cotto, Donaire is trying to, Whitaker did it, quite a few really just am half asleep

[amat]

Giovanni segura and Pirog both do it alot in efforts to cut the ring off and both do it really well. Ward and cotto do it in spots just to change it up occasionally.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Giovanni segura and Pirog both do it alot in efforts to cut the ring off and both do it really well.

Just watched the Pirog/ Jacobs fight. I wonder if he was taught to do that...? It definitely works and he always does it at the right time.

[No Contest]

I remember Gatti doing it, but it never really seemed to work for him. Andre Dirrell does it alot. Cotto used to do it, but I doubt Manny Steward puts that into his training. Didnt Arguello used to switch up alot as well?

[Andre]

Naz used to do it too .

Who was that clown of the ring a few years back who used to fuk around a bit he used to do it too, I've had a mental blank on his name.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Andre, what do you mean when you say 'dominant eye'. How'ds that work? I'm intrigued

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Just found this: http://www.archeryweb.com/archery/eyedom.htm
So if your dominant eye is your left eye (friend of a friend).... How would that be utilised in boxing?

[p4pking]

Andre, what do you mean when you say 'dominant eye'. How'ds that work? I'm intrigued

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Just found this: Determining your Dominant Eye
So if your dominant eye is your left eye (friend of a friend).... How would that be utilised in boxing?

Haha just stick your finger out and kind of look past it out of focus until you have a good double. When you close one eye your finger will look to shift sideways. Close the other one and it just get's rid of the double image. The latter is your dominant eye.

[Andre]

The best place to switch is where you don't get hit in the process of switching. There is no best specific strategy just like in a fight in general anything can be countered, thus switching up what you do and adapting properly to the situation is the key to success

There are strategies. They are not practiced by boxers at the moment.

The strategies are moving from the inside of someones guard to the outside of someones guard maintaining control over their lead arm while you switch stance around them.

this allows you to end up on the outside (bodily) on their lead arm and so you have two arms against their none for that moment and it is them who has to readjust to where you are,so that is also a benefit to you.

Also you are switching feet which takes you away from their rear arm while taking you to the outside of their lead arm.

Of course this can only be done in certain circumstances) as other strategies are done in other circumstances.

But controlling front arm can easily be countered if somebody has done other martial arts and applies them to boxing. If you rely on one thing you will figured out and beaten.

Change that to any number of things tried continually (as in any technique in boxing or any other system.)

If you rely on one thing you don't belong there,that would be extremely obvious to even someone who doesn't have an interest in fights.

But then again I could say the queen of England has more than 6 pairs of shoes...


If you do any move twice (other than when the opposition are over committed) the other guy will react differently or try to counter it, it doesnt matter what it is that you are doing.


Im taking about flowing around that arm while maintaining control as you switch feet. Not a grapple. And you move away from the rear arm threat while you do it. Its in one situation.

Its just one thing out of many that can arise prior to or within the subject of this conversation. No need to have to be correct over it, by trying to prove my thoughts wrong. There isnt a right or wrong; it just is, it exists and it works in that situation.
Also this is simply a conversation under a subject heading not some competition.

[Taeth]

At least for myself, and I can't speak on behalf of anyone else, but it's only a shift in perception that changes when I switch. I think people focus too much on dominant this or that. If you are trying to establish a certain sense of self on your opponent that can be done regardless of which side is forward. Boxing due to tradition limits it's in stances largely to either southpaw or orthodox to their own short coming. Heaven knows why boxers don't use the vastly more versatile and fluid footwork in Chinese martial arts. You also generate more power and you don't have to hop.

[Andre]

At least for myself, and I can't speak on behalf of anyone else, but it's only a shift in perception that changes when I switch. I think people focus too much on dominant this or that. If you are trying to establish a certain sense of self on your opponent that can be done regardless of which side is forward. Boxing due to tradition limits it's in stances largely to either southpaw or orthodox to their own short coming. Heaven knows why boxers don't use the vastly more versatile and fluid footwork in Chinese martial arts. You also generate more power and you don't have to hop.

Wow that is some brave words on a boxing forum, or were you being sarcastic?
Either way .

I think the boxer can get away with not sitting on a punch more when fighting on the outside so he can get away with dancing on his toes more, plus he isnt going to get his feet swept out either by hopping as you say.

There are probably justifiable benifits in both ways depending on whats going on: either the inner brawl telephone box style of boxing probably could use some of the Chinese footwork and still get to deliver power twisting in boxing style.

Then theres dancing and remaining on the toes when the fight is fresh or at the bantamand feather end of the weights and at that outer distance of contact you need it too.

As you say, be nice to see someone really know exactly when to apply the two and shape it into a style.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

... So glad I started this thread I'm now looking into chineese martial arts.

Hopefully by Saturday I'll be a member of a Kung-Fu forum