Calzaghe vs jones knockdown

[Spicoli]

Ive always thought that actually...Jones should have jumped him. Think he was much more shaken then when Hopkins speared him. Jones had done this before, let some off at times but here I think it was more physical them mental.

Physical I sometimes think jones got to chummy with Joe whilst co promoting the fight

I think he knew he'd tire, Couldnt explode and maybe gun shy if he went hell bent. In past he's just eased up and dominated. Not sure about being buds, wouldnt have mattered. Calzaghe turned the mental game back on both he and Hopkins...didnt fall for it at all.

[GAME]

Calzaghe has excellent recuperative powers, Roy was anxious about gasing.
Roy was an old fighter.

Spot on

Yeah, that sums it up.

When Roy fight Tito he had him down a couple times but never once looked like raising the pace. Jones always boxes in his comfort zone but he would have been better suited to go all out when he had Joe hurt because he was never going to have the engine to stay with Joe for 12 rounds. Maybe he thought he could land that shot again.

[erics44]

Ok so what was stopping from doing a Roy jones special warp speed combo and doing Joe there and then and walking off and saying hey bhop u lost and I didn't?

Roy was verging on 40 years of age.

Yep, Roy was a whole 3 years older than Joe

Different fighters though. Roy was at his peak early,
Joe later.

calzaghi had a couple of off nights early in his reign as he did late, i woulnt say he peaked pretty consistent all the way through his career

he had more defining fights towards the end but imo was no better a fighter

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Infact he was probably worse because his hands went to shit.

[DaxxKahn]

Ok so what was stopping from doing a Roy jones special warp speed combo and doing Joe there and then and walking off and saying hey bhop u lost and I didn't?

Roy was verging on 40 years of age.

Yep, Roy was a whole 3 years older than Joe

3 yrs in our age....10yrs in fighting age.....

Jones has not been able to be a fight stopper in years....Since before his move to HW....Counting Sheika and lacy in legit stoppages on a world level is silly......Sheika was knocked down 4 times by gust of wind on his way to the arena and Lacy had to have Andrew Hartly removed from his camp as a sparring partner due to Andrew going too rough on him when he was preparing for Roy......

Jones was happy enough to last the Calzaghe fight without being stopped....I think he went into the fight with that mindset

[ross]

Ok so what was stopping from doing a Roy jones special warp speed combo and doing Joe there and then and walking off and saying hey bhop u lost and I didn't?

Roy was verging on 40 years of age.

Yep, Roy was a whole 3 years older than Joe

3 yrs in our age....10yrs in fighting age.....

Jones has not been able to be a fight stopper in years....Since before his move to HW....Counting Sheika and lacy in legit stoppages on a world level is silly......Sheika was knocked down 4 times by gust of wind on his way to the arena and Lacy had to have Andrew Hartly removed from his camp as a sparring partner due to Andrew going too rough on him when he was preparing for Roy......

Jones was happy enough to last the Calzaghe fight without being stopped....I think he went into the fight with that mindset

Thing is, if they had fought earlier, Joe may well have sparked Roy. he's just been over here in Guernsey for the channel islands sports personality of the year. He said he couldn't come back because he hates losing weight and he'd have 35lb to lose and that his hands are ruined. He keeps in shape but hasn't touched a punch bag since his last camp because of his hands.

I didn't go up but according to some of the lads, the Joe they saw in real life was huge compared to the fighter they saw on telly. They reckon he was at least 15 stone and my mate is 6 foot but he said Joe was taller than him, even though Joe is down as 5,11".

[DaxxKahn]

Ok so what was stopping from doing a Roy jones special warp speed combo and doing Joe there and then and walking off and saying hey bhop u lost and I didn't?

Roy was verging on 40 years of age.

Yep, Roy was a whole 3 years older than Joe

3 yrs in our age....10yrs in fighting age.....

Jones has not been able to be a fight stopper in years....Since before his move to HW....Counting Sheika and lacy in legit stoppages on a world level is silly......Sheika was knocked down 4 times by gust of wind on his way to the arena and Lacy had to have Andrew Hartly removed from his camp as a sparring partner due to Andrew going too rough on him when he was preparing for Roy......

Jones was happy enough to last the Calzaghe fight without being stopped....I think he went into the fight with that mindset

Thing is, if they had fought earlier, Joe may well have sparked Roy. he's just been over here in Guernsey for the channel islands sports personality of the year. He said he couldn't come back because he hates losing weight and he'd have 35lb to lose and that his hands are ruined. He keeps in shape but hasn't touched a punch bag since his last camp because of his hands.

I didn't go up but according to some of the lads, the Joe they saw in real life was huge compared to the fighter they saw on telly. They reckon he was at least 15 stone and my mate is 6 foot but he said Joe was taller than him, even though Joe is down as 5,11".

Really that big?....funny how some guys on TV seem huge then in person seem much smaller then others that seem small are much bigger in person....,Thought TV added 20lbs ......As far as them meeting earlier and Joe stopping Jones I don't know....Jones in his prime was very skilled athletically and IMo would have found a way to keep away from Joe...Jones never liked a high paced bout and Joe as we all know threw a lot of punches so I really think it would have been a snoozer

[ross]

Calzaghe 1.jpg

[Really that big?

Have a look...


calzaghe 2.jpg

I just previeed the pictures and they are tiny! Fuck knows how you make them bigger but this is Joe with most of the current Guernsey boxers, taken last Thursday, Also, Joe went out for a few sociables with the lad with dark hair and dark t shirt, second from left

[DaxxKahn]

Calzaghe 1.jpg

[Really that big?

Have a look...


calzaghe 2.jpg

I just previeed the pictures and they are tiny! Fuck knows how you make them bigger but this is Joe with most of the current Guernsey boxers, taken last Thursday, Also, Joe went out for a few sociables with the lad with dark hair and dark t shirt, second from left

When you click it it gets to a normal size pic that you can see clearly...IMO it just looks as if Joe is healthy and is bigger because he is at his walking around weight....Obviously when a guy fights he is 20lbs or so under his normal weight so I would guess that is why.....He retired at LHW so figure he was 175lbs for that bout and he was in shape so he probably shed 15lbs in camp giving him a walking around weight of about 190......

[ross]

Calzaghe 1.jpg

[Really that big?

Have a look...


calzaghe 2.jpg

I just previeed the pictures and they are tiny! Fuck knows how you make them bigger but this is Joe with most of the current Guernsey boxers, taken last Thursday, Also, Joe went out for a few sociables with the lad with dark hair and dark t shirt, second from left

When you click it it gets to a normal size pic that you can see clearly...IMO it just looks as if Joe is healthy and is bigger because he is at his walking around weight....Obviously when a guy fights he is 20lbs or so under his normal weight so I would guess that is why.....He retired at LHW so figure he was 175lbs for that bout and he was in shape so he probably shed 15lbs in camp giving him a walking around weight of about 190......

Well apparently he stood on the scale mucking about and it flew over 200lb

The big ginger lad on his right weighed in at 106 kilo for his fight last friday night, that gives you a bit of a comparrison, size wise.

[DaxxKahn]

Calzaghe 1.jpg

[Really that big?

Have a look...


calzaghe 2.jpg

I just previeed the pictures and they are tiny! Fuck knows how you make them bigger but this is Joe with most of the current Guernsey boxers, taken last Thursday, Also, Joe went out for a few sociables with the lad with dark hair and dark t shirt, second from left

When you click it it gets to a normal size pic that you can see clearly...IMO it just looks as if Joe is healthy and is bigger because he is at his walking around weight....Obviously when a guy fights he is 20lbs or so under his normal weight so I would guess that is why.....He retired at LHW so figure he was 175lbs for that bout and he was in shape so he probably shed 15lbs in camp giving him a walking around weight of about 190......

Well apparently he stood on the scale mucking about and it flew over 200lb

The big ginger lad on his right weighed in at 106 kilo for his fight last friday night, that gives you a bit of a comparrison, size wise.

Do I hear comeback at CW .......

Seriously though good to see Joe is out and about doing well.....I do wish Joe and Froch could have met before joe retired so we would not have to hear Carl's constant bitching about why the people do not show him the love they showed Joe

[ross]

Incidentaly, the lad stood behind Joe with the gold trim shorts is last years ABA junior lightweight champ.

[erics44]

Ok so what was stopping from doing a Roy jones special warp speed combo and doing Joe there and then and walking off and saying hey bhop u lost and I didn't?

Roy was verging on 40 years of age.

Yep, Roy was a whole 3 years older than Joe

3 yrs in our age....10yrs in fighting age.....

Jones has not been able to be a fight stopper in years....Since before his move to HW....Counting Sheika and lacy in legit stoppages on a world level is silly......Sheika was knocked down 4 times by gust of wind on his way to the arena and Lacy had to have Andrew Hartly removed from his camp as a sparring partner due to Andrew going too rough on him when he was preparing for Roy......

Jones was happy enough to last the Calzaghe fight without being stopped....I think he went into the fight with that mindset

did you just make this up?

[JT Rock]

Roy was extremely fortunate and had that exit to greatness on the inside of his forearm

All joking aside, the irony is that he cracked Joe in the chops with the inside of his wrist/forearm.. Joe was on Queer street and hurt, I venture to say the majority of our friends across the pond were shatting themselves

And if Roy didnt have duck tape holding his guts and psyche together he should have pressed, a couple of solid shots would have done the trick... Roy still had more than enough physically just nothing left in the head, shorts and chest..

Along with Joes recuperative powers, something should be said about his will to win and confidence. I also gotta believe that when Roy didnt follow up one bit after the knockdown that Joe knew the fight was his, hence the clowning and putting his face in Roys guard multiple times.. Shame on Roy really, I look at guys who are old and past it, fight for all the wrong reasons and perhaps cant let the sport go but they still have the fighters heart and pride. Roy still thinks he is superman and Mr. Untouchable and when he had to make a statement or press past athletisicm and let it hang out and seize greatness he didnt have the guts, he was scared to take a chance, scared to get knocked out again...

It really showed me a lot, because when Roy couldnt outspeed a guy or out power him he didnt try... When Roy fought Trinidad he looked fast, crisp and strong..Why becuase he was willing to risk more against a guy who was smaller, and slower..

He had his oppurtunity with Joe, Calzaghe dared him, he clowned, he quietly questioned Roys manhood that night over and over. The biggest embarrasment was that Joe carried Roy the last quarter of the fight, thats all on Roy not Joe. Calzaghe was in a sense showing a measure of respect but a guy like Hopkins, Holyfield, Toney would have never allowed it

I would love to see Joe Vs Bute

[Fenster]

Roy did try to land bombs after the forearm smash knockdown. But he was met by Calzaghe unleashing two fisted mental combos. By the 2nd round Roy's best punches were having the same effect as Powderpuff Paulie's would on Calzaghe.