Who would have beaten a prime Whitaker?

[bzkfn]

I think mayweather beats at any weight they occupy, he's harder to hit, faster, bigger, and he works harder. He's simply better than Whitaker.

Duran also likely beats him, Whitaker couldn't move like Leonard did, and Duran would just go to the body and make an ugly inside fight, but he's bigger and better than jcc.

Leonard and hearns I think they beat him because both are excellent fighters with a huge size advantage while both are also faster than him.

Aaron Pryor and pacquiao both best whitaker because they have to great a combination of speed, output and pressure.

I've watched a lot of Whitaker, and he's one of my favorites, but he simply relied on his reflexes far too much, the actual technique needed against a lot of these guys' speed simply isn't there, and he didn't control the ring the same way a lot these guys did.

surprise surprise Taeth once again making it seem as if no one in the history of the sport could beat Mayweather...

I've never seen Taeth do this, but in this case I have to agree with him. Whitaker had superb defensive skills, but Mayweather simply works harder and possesses better offensive skills than Pernell and would have taken a judges decision had they have fought.

just read most of his posts where he mentions Mayweather in nearly everyone of them, he builds him to be the #1 ATG fighter in the history of the sport

Fair enough. I've seen him post bout plenty of other things though, he's hardly a Xadu is he? I don't think any fighter in the history of the sport would have beaten a prime Roy Jones Jr. It's all opinion.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Lightweights
Joe Gans
Roberto Duran
Willie Pep
Benny Leonard
Light Welterweights
Aaron Pryor
Kostya Tszyu
Floyd Mayweather
Welterweight
Henry Armstrong
Actually never mind 147- quit a few would here

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Lightweights
Joe Gans
Roberto Duran
Willie Pep
Benny Leonard
Light Welterweights
Aaron Pryor
Kostya Tszyu
Floyd Mayweather
Welterweight
Henry Armstrong
Actually never mind 147- quit a few would here

Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

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Jose Luis Ramirez battered him in his prime. I cant believe that one American judges scorecard, what fight was he watching?

[donnydarkoIRL]

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

[donnydarkoIRL]

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Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

I'll definitely go along with the first two and I can see where you're coming from with Tszyu.
But he was a great slick am- he could have (and should've) called on those skills more in the pros.

[Dark Lord Al]

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Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

I'll definitely go along with the first two and I can see where you're coming from with Tszyu.
But he was a great slick am- he could have (and should've) called on those skills more in the pros.

WTF ? the guy got stopped by vince phillips when he was in his prime !
no way in the world he beats SWEETPEA and i mean no way.

[Taeth]

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

Leonard wouldn't have stood chance against Whitaker? WTF he would have stood a chance against anyone. Also Tszyu would match up quite well with Whitaker, he was calculated accurate, with huge power. He would probably lose, but he would give Whitaker a ton of problems.

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

Leonard wouldn't have stood chance against Whitaker? WTF he would have stood a chance against anyone. Also Tszyu would match up quite well with Whitaker, he was calculated accurate, with huge power. He would probably lose, but he would give Whitaker a ton of problems.

Benny Leonard. Not Ray Leonard

[IamInuit]

Pep was a small featherweight and watching those two fight would not garner high expectations.

Lots of people could and many would beat Whitaker. I’m not even going to touch 147 because Whitaker has no business being in the conversation. 135 and 140 can be combined for this as most of the lightweights in history could have campaigned there if the weight class existed and many of them did when it did.

Sam Langford Yup, that Langford.
Joe Gans
Eddie Perkins
Benny Leonard
Carlos Ortiz
Henry Armstrong
Beau Jack
Wilfredo Benitez
Niccolino Locche and the bonus would be its use as a sleep aid.
Shane Mosley
Duilio Loi
Roberto Duran
Ike Williams
Barney Ross
Antonio Cervantes
Juan Coggi
Jack Berg
Floyd Mayweather bit of another sleeper
Tony Cazoneri
Ricky Hatton
Alexis Arguello
Freddie Welsh
Jose Louis Castillo
Joe Brown
Ken Buchanan

[Hulk]

Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Shane Mosley at lightweight or welterweight, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, maybe Aaaron Pryor and Alexis Arguello.

Only the best of the best.

Oh and Ricky Hatton of course

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Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Shane Mosley at lightweight or welterweight, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, maybe Aaaron Pryor and Alexis Arguello.

Only the best of the best.

Oh and Ricky Hatton of course

With Dave Parris as ref, or Joe Cortez?

[Manju]

In baseball they say great pitching beats great hitting. Likewise the great defensive backpeddler with speed generally has the advantage over the big punching forward-coming fighter.

So, I think the most likely candidate to beat Sweet Pea would be his fellow defensive artist, PBF. Meldrick Taylor in has prime would've been an interesting test. His speed might have caused trouble for Sweet Pea.

If sugar ray could outbox duran, I think Sweat Pea could too. Chavez is the test case there and even though Duran had superior movement and defense to Chavez, I doubt he could get to Sweat Pea.

SRL however was also a great boxer and had more power. He was a natural WW and would've had the height and reach advantage, so ultimately you have to go with him. Ditto for Hearns but with these two the real differnce is size. Mayweather and Meldrick were more in Seat Pea's natural range.

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Sugar Ray Leonard, Sugar Shane Mosley at lightweight or welterweight, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, maybe Aaaron Pryor and Alexis Arguello.

Only the best of the best.

Oh and Ricky Hatton of course

Only thing Hatton beats Whitaker in is a gravy drink off. Whitaker whips his ass in a boxing fight and a snorting contest