Who would have beaten a prime Whitaker?

[donnydarkoIRL]

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

[Violent Demise]

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

[donnydarkoIRL]

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Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

I'll definitely go along with the first two and I can see where you're coming from with Tszyu.
But he was a great slick am- he could have (and should've) called on those skills more in the pros.

[Dark Lord Al]

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Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

I'll definitely go along with the first two and I can see where you're coming from with Tszyu.
But he was a great slick am- he could have (and should've) called on those skills more in the pros.

WTF ? the guy got stopped by vince phillips when he was in his prime !
no way in the world he beats SWEETPEA and i mean no way.

[No Contest]

I think ICB could give him a good fight.

[donnydarkoIRL]

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Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

I'll definitely go along with the first two and I can see where you're coming from with Tszyu.
But he was a great slick am- he could have (and should've) called on those skills more in the pros.

WTF ? the guy got stopped by vince phillips when he was in his prime !
no way in the world he beats SWEETPEA and i mean no way.

Styles make fights I think.
Philips was far from a great fighter, but he was incredibly physical and in great condition. Although not in the same class I feel that Phillips pressure is something that Pernell couldn't have [pulled off and I see a distinct possibility that Pernell is caught in between a slip/roll/reflex defence. Remember Kostya had frightening power.

[Ant Live]

I remember when Gatti was fighting Floyd. Whitaker was cheering hard for Gatti to a point that I might think, Whitaker don't like Floyd. Floyd's best performance ever!!!

One think about Floyd we all have to agree on, Floyd is relax and compose in the ring. The little dancing that Whitaker use to do that made his opponent try to load up on, Floyd will never do. "Take this laser jab all night!"

Floyd by MD

[Taeth]

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

Leonard wouldn't have stood chance against Whitaker? WTF he would have stood a chance against anyone. Also Tszyu would match up quite well with Whitaker, he was calculated accurate, with huge power. He would probably lose, but he would give Whitaker a ton of problems.

[Violent Demise]

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

Leonard wouldn't have stood chance against Whitaker? WTF he would have stood a chance against anyone. Also Tszyu would match up quite well with Whitaker, he was calculated accurate, with huge power. He would probably lose, but he would give Whitaker a ton of problems.

Benny Leonard. Not Ray Leonard

[Taeth]

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Pep, Leonard and Tszyu would have no chance

Each guy I posted I gave a shot at beating Sweetpea, pretty sure he may have beaten quite a few of em.
Pep and Leonard may not have been big enough.

But you've gotta give Tszyu a chance don't you?
Pernell had a good beard, but Tszyu could take guys with one.

Leonard not big enough. Pep no where near the offense to pull it off. And Tszyu way to one-dimensional for Whitaker.

Leonard wouldn't have stood chance against Whitaker? WTF he would have stood a chance against anyone. Also Tszyu would match up quite well with Whitaker, he was calculated accurate, with huge power. He would probably lose, but he would give Whitaker a ton of problems.

Benny Leonard. Not Ray Leonard

How can you talk about Benny Leonard, how much footage of him have you actually seen? Like 2 minutes of crappy footage?

[IamInuit]

Pep was a small featherweight and watching those two fight would not garner high expectations.

Lots of people could and many would beat Whitaker. I’m not even going to touch 147 because Whitaker has no business being in the conversation. 135 and 140 can be combined for this as most of the lightweights in history could have campaigned there if the weight class existed and many of them did when it did.

Sam Langford Yup, that Langford.
Joe Gans
Eddie Perkins
Benny Leonard
Carlos Ortiz
Henry Armstrong
Beau Jack
Wilfredo Benitez
Niccolino Locche and the bonus would be its use as a sleep aid.
Shane Mosley
Duilio Loi
Roberto Duran
Ike Williams
Barney Ross
Antonio Cervantes
Juan Coggi
Jack Berg
Floyd Mayweather bit of another sleeper
Tony Cazoneri
Ricky Hatton
Alexis Arguello
Freddie Welsh
Jose Louis Castillo
Joe Brown
Ken Buchanan

[ElTerribleMorales]

Pep was a small featherweight and watching those two fight would not garner high expectations.

Lots of people could and many would beat Whitaker. I’m not even going to touch 147 because Whitaker has no business being in the conversation. 135 and 140 can be combined for this as most of the lightweights in history could have campaigned there if the weight class existed and many of them did when it did.

Sam Langford Yup, that Langford.
Joe Gans
Eddie Perkins
Benny Leonard
Carlos Ortiz
Henry Armstrong
Beau Jack
Wilfredo Benitez
Niccolino Locche and the bonus would be its use as a sleep aid.
Shane Mosley
Duilio Loi
Roberto Duran
Ike Williams
Barney Ross
Antonio Cervantes
Juan Coggi
Jack Berg
Floyd Mayweather bit of another sleeper
Tony Cazoneri
Ricky Hatton
Alexis Arguello
Freddie Welsh
Jose Louis Castillo
Joe Brown
Ken Buchanan

IMO he was too slick for a bunch of the guys on that list, especially Hatton and Castillo

[THE THIRD MAN]

The best chances

At 135lb
Duran -Late stoppage win for Duran
Arguello- Whitaker wins a close decision
Mosley- Mosley was at his best at Lightweight, can Sweet Pea withstand the power?

At 140lb
Pryor- It is almost hard to imagine the frustration Pryor would have trying to catch him?
Tszyu- He had ring smarts, was experienced and handled southpaws better than most, i think he lands one?
Mayweather - I just don't see Whitaker beating him?

Whitaker is an all time great, certainly a top 3 Lightweight of all time, it gets more difficult for him as he moves up in weight.

Can you imagine Whitaker V Loche?

Would Salvador Sanchez have made it to Lightweight by the late 80's had he lived? They almost certainly would've met sometime 1987-88 as Sanchez wouldn't have turned 30 until 1989.

[IamInuit]

IMO he was too slick for a bunch of the guys on that list, especially Hatton and Castillo

That is fair. Hatton was something else around the time of Zu and Castillo might be one of the most over looked Mexican fighters ever.

[ElTerribleMorales]

IMO he was too slick for a bunch of the guys on that list, especially Hatton and Castillo

That is fair. Hatton was something else around the time of Zu and Castillo might be one of the most over looked Mexican fighters ever.

I understand that but at 135 or 140 IMO Whitaker would have just pot shotted Hatton all night and would just pick Castillo apart, Whitaker had more pop than what most people like to admit