Re: Do you ever doubt God's existence?

[Drago]

and another thing if i said to someone 'oh by the way god came to my front room to see me last night' everyone would think i was nuts!

[Drago]

i am on 1 now

ok i am supposed to be forever in gods debt cos he died on the cross for me, but i cant remember asking to be born? how bad is that its like me saving someone in a car accident then ringing him everyday saying 'remember how i saved you'

[Andre]

i am on 1 now

ok i am supposed to be forever in gods debt cos he died on the cross for me, but i cant remember asking to be born? how bad is that its like me saving someone in a car accident then ringing him everyday saying 'remember how i saved you'

nice roll; I like your outlook in all of your last three posts here!

Although I wouldnt dis guard God because some group who claim to 'know all' say God is all male, all love, and all of the conniving things you have just stated as well!

It discredits their self given holy position and their lack of true knowledge in regards to what God is and isnt.

Somethings got bullshit on it for sure, thats what we need to question.

God isnt any part of man made bullshit at this low level of material existence.

Man has to actually want, then lift himself up out of the bullshit to even get a glimpse of divine reality.

I came to that conclusion the same way you have.

[Andre]

[VictorCharlie]

I haven't read this whole thread just perused it but I never doubt the existence of God. But I do believe in a much more abstract idea of God. I don't busy myself trying to fit a supreme maker into a box with metrics. To me the world is so complex and intricate to not believe in an intelligent design. After that I gave up along time ago trying to figure anything else out in regards to religion and spirituality.

[Hornfinger]

How does god cause miscarriges? Of course it has nothing to do with women abusing their bodies whilst pregnant.

There are plenty of rescourses to make sure all the people have water, however it is the blind greed of multi national corperations that prevent it

God didn't cause the Holocaust the Nazis did

The reson why so many die in natural disasters is because others have the 'I'm alright jack' attitude and refuse to pledge time and money to help.


Alot of things that God is blamed for are actually caused by or could be prevented by humans. People just use God's 'nastiness' as a scape goat for there own selfish behavior.

God said 'love thy neighbour'. If we all actually did that we wouldn't have any where near the problems we do.

[Andre]

How does god cause miscarriges? Of course it has nothing to do with women abusing their bodies whilst pregnant.

There are plenty of rescourses to make sure all the people have water, however it is the blind greed of multi national corperations that prevent it

God didn't cause the Holocaust the Nazis did

The reson why so many die in natural disasters is because others have the 'I'm alright jack' attitude and refuse to pledge time and money to help.


Alot of things that God is blamed for are actually caused by or could be prevented by humans. People just use God's 'nastiness' as a scape goat for there own selfish behavior.

God said 'love thy neighbour'. If we all actually did that we wouldn't have any where near the problems we do.

Good man. I agree, I put that up only to emphasize incorrect thinking in terms God mate.

Here's my take. Take it or leave it, it doesnt matter .

We are all only points of view,building experiences, evolving.


Ive always stated God allows free will. End of story right there.

Ive always stated God isnt like the picture in those gifs too.

God isnt just male God is all energies reaching outward and inward into the micro and out through the macro cosmos and further into reaches we cant even see with these eyes because light at a certain speed or density or maybe both turns black.

God isnt a color, jealous,vindictive or judgmental,that is impossible.
Actions just have consequences that run into your next lives and into your own family trees through our dna and rna.

We have more than one go at getting it right (reincarnation exists,it always has done)
The Romans removed it from scripture so the false Christianity could gain power over others (which is another free will action going against God given free will to all).

God didnt set out rules to be obeyed (they were guidelines, changed by men into rules to control others).


Its a mistake to buy into false beliefs that lays blame outside of ourselves.

I love God. Really. I do not fear God and I do not buy into blaming God for anything other than allowing us all our time to do as we wish and those are the consequences of our actions upsetting what could of been a perfect natural balance. We choose this position in order to experience where our power comes from and where it goes to.
We mainly choose wrong and these are self imposed lessons which are good for us.
This place we have here isnt even 1/100 of a percent of 1 percent of the whole, we just falsely belive the universes all revolves around us.

[Drago]

How does god cause miscarriges? Of course it has nothing to do with women abusing their bodies whilst pregnant.

There are plenty of rescourses to make sure all the people have water, however it is the blind greed of multi national corperations that prevent it

God didn't cause the Holocaust the Nazis did

The reson why so many die in natural disasters is because others have the 'I'm alright jack' attitude and refuse to pledge time and money to help.


Alot of things that God is blamed for are actually caused by or could be prevented by humans. People just use God's 'nastiness' as a scape goat for there own selfish behavior.

God said 'love thy neighbour'. If we all actually did that we wouldn't have any where near the problems we do.

my neighbours a cnt tho

[superheavyrhun]

I've just been watching one of my favourite movies of all time, "Gandhi". Having read about him as well, it is one of those movies I tend to watch when I have my own crises and want to think about what my conscience is telling me to do.

Ultimately, I'm not entirely sure that believing in God affects whether or not you are a good man. After all, there have been very bad religious people and very good atheists, and vice versa. If there is a God, and if he is truly great, then he will still see that it is the man who has lived well and given or benefited more his fellow man that shall still go to heaven before the man who believed in God, but lived badly.

I frequently fall short of the standards that I set myself, and what I expect in terms of living in a way that has a positive effect on those around me, but all I can do is pick myself, and live as best as I know how. Whether or not there is a God looking down, or not looking down, seems the secondary question to me.

[Andre]

I've just been watching one of my favourite movies of all time, "Gandhi". Having read about him as well, it is one of those movies I tend to watch when I have my own crises and want to think about what my conscience is telling me to do.

Ultimately, I'm not entirely sure that believing in God affects whether or not you are a good man. After all, there have been very bad religious people and very good atheists, and vice versa. If there is a God, and if he is truly great, then he will still see that it is the man who has lived well and given or benefited more his fellow man that shall still go to heaven before the man who believed in God, but lived badly.

I frequently fall short of the standards that I set myself, and what I expect in terms of living in a way that has a positive effect on those around me, but all I can do is pick myself, and live as best as I know how. Whether or not there is a God looking down, or not looking down, seems the secondary question to me.

People are stuck in thinking like that. That is true, but its one point of view, yet again from a human point.

How about God looking out from behind our own eyes but we dont feel it or realize it because we are too caught up in our own story lines, likes, dislikes and we hold that above everything else.


Believing in doesnt matter,it has no effect on what is or isnt. On the other hand, wishing into non existence will create exactly that for those who strive for that experience. Because that is what they wish to experience it will be given to them freely. That still wont mean, God doesnt exist; it just means there's a place with boarders where that can be experienced in full.

[Andre]

How does god cause miscarriges? Of course it has nothing to do with women abusing their bodies whilst pregnant.

There are plenty of rescourses to make sure all the people have water, however it is the blind greed of multi national corperations that prevent it

God didn't cause the Holocaust the Nazis did

The reson why so many die in natural disasters is because others have the 'I'm alright jack' attitude and refuse to pledge time and money to help.


Alot of things that God is blamed for are actually caused by or could be prevented by humans. People just use God's 'nastiness' as a scape goat for there own selfish behavior.

God said 'love thy neighbour'. If we all actually did that we wouldn't have any where near the problems we do.

my neighbors a cnt tho

Mine is too,but he makes all the others around here look so much better in reflection.

I love boiling water too for so many reasons, but not poured on me .

[greynotsoold]

Just a mile east of my house there is the East Ridge of the continental Divide. Beautiful, especially in the mornings with the sun coming up, or with storm clouds hovering about the mountain. Just south of me are the Highland mountains, over 10,000 feet. The sight of those mountainbs, covered in snow, with the early morning sun reflecting off of them is the most inspiring sight that I am aware of. i live with this wonderful jackass of a dog (Kimberly) and she never lets me be unhappy.
I don't think any of that is accidental, I believe that there is a creator. But if he bothers himself with all this petty, nonsensical, human bullshit, he's a pretty sorry sort to be calling himself "GOD".

[pacfan]

Alright, gentlemen, I'm not going to debate whether God exists or not 'cause I know it will get nowhere. All I can say is that He either exists or not; that makes it 50-50, even. But with an even-steven chance, don't you think it's better to be on the safe side? Nuff of that...

Let's discuss something different but related.

Why is it that at the dawn of civilization, all tribes, as we call them, developed certain rituals or practices mostly religious in nature? For example, why did almost all tribes in the world develop some form of rituals like dancing & chantings? Why did most of them offer sacrifices? And as Adam and Eve had done, why did they start to cover themself and sex suddenly becomes something to be ashamed of? which is contrary to the evolutionary principle of 'let's go and multiply with abandon'?

It's a fact that when people engage in chanting-dancing rituals, which is usually their way to communicate with their Gods, their mind is brought into a sem-trance state or the alpha mode, as scientists classify them according to the brain-wave pattern. It's the same mode as when people go into deep prayer or meditation. But more intriguing is it's the same mode or state of mind when great discoveries were made, taking the classic example of how Isaac Newton discovered his gravity theory:

'...whilst he was musing in a garden it came into his thought that the power of gravity...'

So you see fellas, there is something there when people go into alpha state of mind. The early humans believed it to be the way to communicate with God. The Hindu's and the Buddhist's, and meditators like us believe it's the way to tap into the 'Universal Mind' which is a storehouse of all knowledge of this universe...

[Memphis]

If I built a treehouse for my kids, I'd let them do what they wanted with it within reason. They start breaking it up or fighting with one another over it their ass gets ejected. I wouldnt try and wipe them out with a flood or owt, just a bit of time on the naughty step should do it.

God can do anything, he must have a naughty step?

[0james0]

People needed an explanation and a purpose.

It's human nature, not a sign of a greater power.