David Haye vs Alexander Povetkin

[erics44]

yeah all you need is a jab and a right cross to beat haye

i cant see provetkin winning although he has the skills to give it a go

i would say it will be a fairly early KO tho, before half way

[El Kabong]

yeah all you need is a jab and a right cross to beat haye

i cant see provetkin winning although he has the skills to give it a go

i would say it will be a fairly early KO tho, before half way

I never said "all you need is a jab and a right cross" to beat him....you need a jab and to COUNTER the WBA title holder's right cross because: #1 he throws it often #2 he hardly ever throws a punch after it and most importantly #3 he's in love with that punch and throws it wide and occasionally wild ergo its the perfect punch to counter.

[erics44]

yeah all you need is a jab and a right cross to beat haye

i cant see provetkin winning although he has the skills to give it a go

i would say it will be a fairly early KO tho, before half way

I never said "all you need is a jab and a right cross" to beat him....you need a jab and to COUNTER the WBA title holder's right cross because: #1 he throws it often #2 he hardly ever throws a punch after it and most importantly #3 he's in love with that punch and throws it wide and occasionally wild ergo its the perfect punch to counter.

yeah soz, thats all you need to do

if provetkin has a good chin then maybe he its will get into the later rounds

I can see he has a chance to win but there is no way that haye could ever be an easy nights work for him

[rjj tszyu]

yeah all you need is a jab and a right cross to beat haye

i cant see provetkin winning although he has the skills to give it a go

i would say it will be a fairly early KO tho, before half way

I never said "all you need is a jab and a right cross" to beat him....you need a jab and to COUNTER the WBA title holder's right cross because: #1 he throws it often #2 he hardly ever throws a punch after it and most importantly #3 he's in love with that punch and throws it wide and occasionally wild ergo its the perfect punch to counter.

yeah soz, thats all you need to do

if provetkin has a good chin then maybe he its will get into the later rounds

I can see he has a chance to win but there is no way that haye could ever be an easy nights work for him

I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is and say Haye makes easy work of Povetkin and KO's him. Like I said earlier it'll be similar to the Ruiz fight but not as long.

[ono]

Haye should have just signed for July 2nd. When Wlad pulled out, everyone would have been on his side. The fact he didn't sign makes it look bad in some people's eyes. Tis ridiculous from both of them really.

Exactly mate. I said it at the time, should've agreed to the fight and called Wlad's bluff. If he then pulled out, fair play, Haye was right all along and Wlad didn't want anything to do with it. The fact Haye used the Chisora fight as an excuse NOT to agree to July 2nd says it all for me. Regardless of how erics44 tries to gloss it over.

dude, what would have happened if haye would have signed?

wlad would have waited till the 1st july and then pulled out, and sorry to use a fensterism but that is a fact

then haye has 3 months before he retires, so dude haye was (to use a koppasism) RIGHT not to sign, wlad would have just took the PISS even more

dude, its good to feel passionate about stuff and your hate for haye is passion, but its missdirected unfortunately

Let's just agree to disagree.

You think Wlad is to blame. I know David is to blame.

End of.

I agree that i think that wlad is to blame, i dont agree that you know david is to blame, you just think he is (in fact i dont think you think he is i just think you want him to be)

I am sure there is some blame on hayes side but i am struggling to see how anyone would come to the conclusion that haye is solely (even majority) to blame considering the recent negotiations

I also struggle with the fact that a boxing fan would so unconditionally side with wlad in this situation. OK haye is a bit of a dick but wlad is the most boring heavyweight champ certainly in my lifetime

That's your opinion. I personally like Wlad and feel that he doesn't get the respect he deserves. They can only beat what it is in front of them and his KO record is superb. Along with his brother. They can retire happy with what they have achieved. Haye, whether you like it or not, cannot.

You wouldn't be happy retiring as former undisputed crusierweight champions of the world, former WBA heavyweight champion of the world? You United fans have high standards

[erics44]

Haye should have just signed for July 2nd. When Wlad pulled out, everyone would have been on his side. The fact he didn't sign makes it look bad in some people's eyes. Tis ridiculous from both of them really.

Exactly mate. I said it at the time, should've agreed to the fight and called Wlad's bluff. If he then pulled out, fair play, Haye was right all along and Wlad didn't want anything to do with it. The fact Haye used the Chisora fight as an excuse NOT to agree to July 2nd says it all for me. Regardless of how erics44 tries to gloss it over.

dude, what would have happened if haye would have signed?

wlad would have waited till the 1st july and then pulled out, and sorry to use a fensterism but that is a fact

then haye has 3 months before he retires, so dude haye was (to use a koppasism) RIGHT not to sign, wlad would have just took the PISS even more

dude, its good to feel passionate about stuff and your hate for haye is passion, but its missdirected unfortunately

Let's just agree to disagree.

You think Wlad is to blame. I know David is to blame.

End of.

I agree that i think that wlad is to blame, i dont agree that you know david is to blame, you just think he is (in fact i dont think you think he is i just think you want him to be)

I am sure there is some blame on hayes side but i am struggling to see how anyone would come to the conclusion that haye is solely (even majority) to blame considering the recent negotiations

I also struggle with the fact that a boxing fan would so unconditionally side with wlad in this situation. OK haye is a bit of a dick but wlad is the most boring heavyweight champ certainly in my lifetime

That's your opinion. I personally like Wlad and feel that he doesn't get the respect he deserves. They can only beat what it is in front of them and his KO record is superb. Along with his brother. They can retire happy with what they have achieved. Haye, whether you like it or not, cannot.

You wouldn't be happy retiring as former undisputed crusierweight champions of the world, former WBA heavyweight champion of the world? You United fans have high standards

awe no koppas you arent a united fan too are you?

where are you from? cornwall? essex?

[HattonTheHammer]

Haye should have just signed for July 2nd. When Wlad pulled out, everyone would have been on his side. The fact he didn't sign makes it look bad in some people's eyes. Tis ridiculous from both of them really.

Exactly mate. I said it at the time, should've agreed to the fight and called Wlad's bluff. If he then pulled out, fair play, Haye was right all along and Wlad didn't want anything to do with it. The fact Haye used the Chisora fight as an excuse NOT to agree to July 2nd says it all for me. Regardless of how erics44 tries to gloss it over.

dude, what would have happened if haye would have signed?

wlad would have waited till the 1st july and then pulled out, and sorry to use a fensterism but that is a fact

then haye has 3 months before he retires, so dude haye was (to use a koppasism) RIGHT not to sign, wlad would have just took the PISS even more

dude, its good to feel passionate about stuff and your hate for haye is passion, but its missdirected unfortunately

Let's just agree to disagree.

You think Wlad is to blame. I know David is to blame.

End of.

I agree that i think that wlad is to blame, i dont agree that you know david is to blame, you just think he is (in fact i dont think you think he is i just think you want him to be)

I am sure there is some blame on hayes side but i am struggling to see how anyone would come to the conclusion that haye is solely (even majority) to blame considering the recent negotiations

I also struggle with the fact that a boxing fan would so unconditionally side with wlad in this situation. OK haye is a bit of a dick but wlad is the most boring heavyweight champ certainly in my lifetime

That's your opinion. I personally like Wlad and feel that he doesn't get the respect he deserves. They can only beat what it is in front of them and his KO record is superb. Along with his brother. They can retire happy with what they have achieved. Haye, whether you like it or not, cannot.

You wouldn't be happy retiring as former undisputed crusierweight champions of the world, former WBA heavyweight champion of the world? You United fans have high standards

awe no koppas you arent a united fan too are you?

where are you from? cornwall? essex?

as we like to sing to man utd fans whenever they attend upton park...

"live round the corner
you only live round the corner"

[erics44]

as we like to sing to man utd fans whenever they attend upton park...

"live round the corner
you only live round the corner"

yes with all the hangers on at times it shames me to admit my loyalties to united

being Salford born and bread tho i have a good excuse

[erics44]

mind you if i was a west ham fan id be even less proud of my team

soz dude but i hope you go down, along with the other foreigners of the premier league wigan and west brom

[Rantcatrat]

Povetkin's win over Chambers is better than any win on Haye's record. Just saying.

Problem is that it was a couple years ago now.

[El Kabong]

Povetkin's win over Chambers is better than any win on Haye's record. Just saying.

Problem is that it was a couple years ago now.

....His wins over Chris Byrd and Larry Donald are better than anything the WBA title holder has done.

[rjj tszyu]

Povetkin's win over Chambers is better than any win on Haye's record. Just saying.

Problem is that it was a couple years ago now.

....His wins over Chris Byrd and Larry Donald are better than anything the WBA title holder has done.

And of course Jizora is going to be an epic struggle and real test for Wladimir Bitschko. At least big brother is fighting someone half decent. In fact Solis IMO is better than anyone Wlad has ever fought. Then again he did have the chance to fight Haye next but decided to take on Del Boy instead. The big Brave bitch.

[HattonTheHammer]

as we like to sing to man utd fans whenever they attend upton park...

"live round the corner
you only live round the corner"

yes with all the hangers on at times it shames me to admit my loyalties to united

being Salford born and bread tho i have a good excuse

we`ve got the olympic stadium now erics mate, give it 10years and we`ll have our very 1st batch of manchester hammers