Saul Alvarez vs Matthew Hatton for the WBC Light Middleweight title

[boxingbantz]

Alvarez wrecks Rhodes just as easy as he's gonna wreck Hatton. I mean come on now

At least he's wrecking a legitimate light middleweight in a fight for the world title for said weight...

[erics44]

you know the more i think about it and the more i read watch the build up and look at their records the more i think hatton has a chance of winning this fight

We all know how people like to build up young boxers, hes the next mexican great and all that, you watch a boxing show what he is on and all you hear is how great he is or is gonna be, its bound to influence

he looks good dont get me wrong but his record isnt amazing, I dont think there is anything hatton couldnt have handled in the same way in his current form

Alvarezes best win on paper is the baldomir KO, but what stage of his carear was baldomir at?

I think this fight will be a lot closer than people are suggesting

[Kev]

you know the more i think about it and the more i read watch the build up and look at their records the more i think hatton has a chance of winning this fight

We all know how people like to build up young boxers, hes the next mexican great and all that, you watch a boxing show what he is on and all you hear is how great he is or is gonna be, its bound to influence

he looks good dont get me wrong but his record isnt amazing, I dont think there is anything hatton couldnt have handled in the same way in his current form

Alvarezes best win on paper is the baldomir KO, but what stage of his carear was baldomir at?

I think this fight will be a lot closer than people are suggesting

Seeing as Alvarez had to go to decision against recent Hatton oppponent Lovemore N'dou in his last fight I don't think we are witnessing the emergence of a p4p star just yet.

I expect Alvarez to win, and I'm certainly no fan of Matthew Hatton but if he believes in himself and doesn't freeze he can make this a competitive fight.

My guess is Alvarez wears him down and stops him late but it's a good matchup for Alvarez at this stage in his career, only twenty years old after all.

Whether it should be for a light middleweight title is debatable but the belt is vacant, and they don't mean a lot these days anyhow.

At the end of the day Golden Boy believe in Alvarez and think he could be the next big Mexican star. The WBC presumably also think he is a better champion elect for them than Ryan Rhodes and who can really disagree?

Alvarez is good for boxing. He's popular, he's exciting, he may well be one for the future. Ryan Rhodes offers what to world boxing exactly?

Boxing isn't a meritocracy, and personally I'm ok with that.

[erics44]

I agree, alvarez will mean more to the world of boxing than rhodes

ideally tho what i would most like to happen is Hatton win in a cracker and the brings the belt home to fight rhodes

maybe that is a bit far fetched like

[boxingbantz]

Your missing the point about Ryan Rhodes.

The point was people like Ryan Rhodes, Vanes Martirosyan and Alfredo Angulo have been after the belt for a couple of years and they see someone else, this time cue ball head, jump ahead of them and get a shot at the light middleweight title.

[Kev]

Your missing the point about Ryan Rhodes.

The point was people like Ryan Rhodes, Vanes Martirosyan and Alfredo Angulo have been after the belt for a couple of years and they see someone else, this time cue ball head, jump ahead of them and get a shot at the light middleweight title.

Yes but your missing the point about boxing. It isn't a meritocracy. It's a comercially driven entertainment sport where popularity matters. It's less like organised sports like soccer and more like the movies. Is it fair that Hollywood can make gazillions of dollars churning out utter dross disaster movies or focker's style comedies that are enjoyed by the idiot masses whilst great low budget movies or foreign films get overlooked? No but that is the way the world works.

I expect you yourself would rather watch Avatar than Baaria or White Ribbon and most boxing fans would rather see Saul Alvarez fighting for a world title than Ryan Rhodes.

[boxingbantz]

Your missing the point about Ryan Rhodes.

The point was people like Ryan Rhodes, Vanes Martirosyan and Alfredo Angulo have been after the belt for a couple of years and they see someone else, this time cue ball head, jump ahead of them and get a shot at the light middleweight title.

Yes but your missing the point about boxing. It isn't a meritocracy. It's a comercially driven entertainment sport where popularity matters. It's less like organised sports like soccer and more like the movies. Is it fair that Hollywood can make gazillions of dollars churning out utter dross disaster movies or focker's style comedies that are enjoyed by the idiot masses whilst great low budget movies or foreign films get overlooked? No but that is the way the world works.

I expect you yourself would rather watch Avatar than Baaria or White Ribbon and most boxing fans would rather see Saul Alvarez fighting for a world title than Ryan Rhodes.

Your missing the point again. I want to see Saul Alvarez fighting for a world title. That isn't my problem. My problem is the choice of opponent FOR the world title fight. If he'd have been fighting Ryan Rhodes or Angulo for the title, I wouldn't have had anything against it. Pac fighting for the title was a joke but, to be fair, he was the best welterweight in the world and it was the next logically step up if he wanted another title in another weight. Hatton is only European welterweight champion and would get destroyed by the majority of the top ten fighters in the division. At least, by fighting Ryan Rhodes (or anyone else in the top ten), Alvarez would be fighting one of the' best' in the division.

It's strange that the majority of the boxing public are outraged that Matthew Hatton has a world title fight at light middleweight but a few on here don't seem to have a problem with it. The problem isn't, as i've said, with Alvarez.

[erics44]

Yes I would rather see Saul Alvarez fighting for a world title. That isn't my problem. My problem is the choice of opponent FOR the world title fight. If he'd have been fighting Ryan Rhodes or Angulo for the title, I wouldn't have had anything against it.

the fight was already made

The WBC obviously wanted alvarez to fight for the title so what options did they have to get it done following manny vacating?

[Kev]

Your missing the point about Ryan Rhodes.

The point was people like Ryan Rhodes, Vanes Martirosyan and Alfredo Angulo have been after the belt for a couple of years and they see someone else, this time cue ball head, jump ahead of them and get a shot at the light middleweight title.

Yes but your missing the point about boxing. It isn't a meritocracy. It's a comercially driven entertainment sport where popularity matters. It's less like organised sports like soccer and more like the movies. Is it fair that Hollywood can make gazillions of dollars churning out utter dross disaster movies or focker's style comedies that are enjoyed by the idiot masses whilst great low budget movies or foreign films get overlooked? No but that is the way the world works.

I expect you yourself would rather watch Avatar than Baaria or White Ribbon and most boxing fans would rather see Saul Alvarez fighting for a world title than Ryan Rhodes.

Your missing the point again. I want to see Saul Alvarez fighting for a world title. That isn't my problem. My problem is the choice of opponent FOR the world title fight. If he'd have been fighting Ryan Rhodes or Angulo for the title, I wouldn't have had anything against it. Pac fighting for the title was a joke but, to be fair, he was the best welterweight in the world and it was the next logically step up if he wanted another title in another weight. Hatton is only the European welterweight champion who would get destroyed by the majority of the top ten fighters in the division. At least, by fighting Ryan Rhodes (or anyone else in the top ten), Alvarez would be fighting one of the best in the division.

I agree that Matthew Hatton isn't the ideal opponent to win a world title from, but he's actually a very respectable opponent for Alvarez at this stage in his career. He's the reigning European light welterweight champion, is unbeaten in 10 fights and has defended his title two times. He's also rated number 5 in the world in both the WBA and WBC rankings.

Alvarez is twenty years old.

It's not a bad fight in all honesty, if it was for a vacant light welter title it would be completely legitimate imo.

At light middle it's clearly a case of negotiating power over merit but as I couldn't care less about Ryan Rhodes or any of the other non entities at the weight class it doesn't bother me.

[erics44]

It's strange that the majority of the boxing public are outraged that Matthew Hatton has a world title fight at light middleweight but a few on here don't seem to have a problem with it. The problem isn't, as i've said, with Alvarez.

Bilboa is obviously taking over in my argument on this one, which I am a little upset about mind, i like a good debate as you know and i was in the thick of things before, now i seem to be an outsider in my own barrel of fun

anyway, just to make a point on this point, the bit ive bolded isnt really true

[boxingbantz]

anyway, just to make a point on this point, the bit ive bolded isnt really true

Ok.

[erics44]

anyway, just to make a point on this point, the bit ive bolded isnt really true

Ok.

do you love me now?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Where the fuck is Craig Watson these days

[Master]

This should be Ryan Rhodes opportunity for the title not Hatton who has never fought a class fighter at this weight. It is who you know, that has got him this opportunity.

[boxingbantz]

This should be Ryan Rhodes opportunity for the title not Hatton who has never fought a class fighter at this weight. It is who you know, that has got him this opportunity.

If he surname wasn't Hatton, he wouldn't be a European champion. Nor fighting in Vegas. FACT*.

*This may or not be fact but it is my personal view and does not represent the views of SaddoBoxing.