Top 5 P4P Now?

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You're a man of your word ElTerrible. That's cool.

Your new sig will probably annoy VD more, than you.

[ElTerribleMorales]

You're a man of your word ElTerrible. That's cool.

Your new sig will probably annoy VD more, than you.

it already seems to have pissed off Kankersore haha either way yea i put my top 5, seems that the little bitch couldn't handle the fact that there are still fighters out there who have accomplished a lot more and are still more deserving than Donaire, i mean it was a great win, and that's why i finally have him on the p4p list, but 2 good wins don't put you right up there on the p4p list especially with the gap between those 2 fights, IMO the guys i have up in the top 5 are more deserving and have done a lot more than Donaire

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You're a man of your word ElTerrible. That's cool.

Your new sig will probably annoy VD more, than you.

it already seems to have pissed off Kankersore haha either way yea i put my top 5, seems that the little bitch couldn't handle the fact that there are still fighters out there who have accomplished a lot more and are still more deserving than Donaire, i mean it was a great win, and that's why i finally have him on the p4p list, but 2 good wins don't put you right up there on the p4p list especially with the gap between those 2 fights, IMO the guys i have up in the top 5 are more deserving and have done a lot more than Donaire

I respect Montiel. I've never ever talk crap about him. I said "he will get slaughtered or KTFO" but that just about it. He still have better boxing resume than Donaire. 40 something win with 70 percent KO rate against some good names. No one can take that away from him. But the better man won last night. Beat the man to be the man as they say.

Donaire is getting exaggeratedly overhype right now regarding this p4p thing. Like I'm trying to say in first page of this thread. Pacquiao only became one of the top p4p fighter when he defeated Barrera for the first time. I think Nonito will have to win a lineal belt in heavier weight class too to deserve such accolade he's receiving right now.

[Julius Rain]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

[Pavlik]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

[ElTerribleMorales]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

exactly how i have it right now, IMO Donaire is now actually deserving of p4p status but still have him on the bottom half, around 7 or 8

[Rantcatrat]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

Can you explain why it is you have JuanMa so high on your p4p list?

[Kev]

1. Pac
2. Floyd
3. Sergio
4. Marquez
5. Juan Ma

Can you explain why it is you have JuanMa so high on your p4p list?

Whilst I wouldn't have him there myself his acomplishments are as great as Donaire's imo.

Two weight world champ, undefeated unlike Donaire. Has beaten more world champions than Donaire. Has beaten a future Hall of Famer in R Marquez, not sure Darchinyan or Montiel are on the level of Raphael Marquez.

Lopez has knocked out two reigning world champs in De Leon and Lueveno and forced Marquez to quit after 8 rounds also.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

are you kidding me? Mayweather's skills are way beyond Donaire's

[CFH]

For what it's worth, my top 5 p4p would probably look something like this:

1. Pacquiao
2. Mayweather
3. Martinez
4. Hopkins (I feel dirty just typing that)
5. Ward/Donaire/Bradley/Lopez/Froch

I really feel the guys I have in the #5 spot are pretty interchangeable depending on ones preferences.

[TitoFan]

MY personal top 5 p4p does not include Floyd Mayweather.

(collective sigh of disbelief from Mayweather fans)

I just don't think that having fought the overrated Hatton, undersized JMM, and over-the-hill Mosley in about 3 1/2 frigging years is action enough to warrant a top 5 p4p ranking for the Pretty Boy. (Even RJJ himself was calling him inactive during last night's telecast.... and he LIKES Floyd).

That being said, let the insults rain, and the booing begin........

[Julius Rain]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

are you kidding me? Mayweather's skills are way beyond Donaire's

Mayweather is retired.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

are you kidding me? Mayweather's skills are way beyond Donaire's

Mayweather is retired.

until he actually says it again as he did the first time around, he's not retired, hell it hasn't even been a full 12 months since his last fight

[miron_lang]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

Its PURELY Subjective these p4p Rankings so its justified to do that. But i would equate a fighters recent work and the quality of opponent.

Between 4 and 6 is where i wold put Donairre. Pac, Floyd and Marquez are definitely above him.

but potentially That skillset + power on both hands = Scary

[Kev]

I think HBO guys like Roy Jones are putting him at #2 because of skillset. I completely agree, skill wise Nonito is right below Pacquiao but considering every factor such as resume I have to place him third or forth.

When it comes to skills i dont think anybody can deny him that number 2 slot.

Its PURELY Subjective these p4p Rankings so its justified to do that. But i would equate a fighters recent work and the quality of opponent.

Between 4 and 6 is where i wold put Donairre. Pac, Floyd and Marquez are definitely above him.

but potentially That skillset + power on both hands = Scary

I disagree. Just because something is subjective it should still conform to strict and established criteria.

Scoring a fight is subjective, but that sure as hell doesn't mean a judge can get away with just picking who he likes. We criticise poor judging so it's entirely consistent to criticise poor ranking.

I think Donaire justifies his p4p status now, but until yesterday and his fine demolition of Montiel, he didn't. He had only ever fought one world champion in his career, and that over three years ago. Sure he had talent but he hadn't built the achievements to justify the ludicrously high top 4 ranking the Ring have given him for the past year.

If you just want to go on potential and talent then Gamboa, Rigondeux and Khan must all be knocking on the top 5 right? I mean their skillsets are there for everybody to see, and nobody is faster than Gamboa and Khan.

Never mind that they haven't actually beat, or even fought the top guys in their weight classes yet I believe they will win so I'm putting them top 5 now.

That's the kind of thought process I expect from an Eastside boxing member, not the voting panel for the world's most prestigious magazine.