Mike Jones...2nd times the charm!

[paddy448]

I hope him and brook get in the ring soon. Would be an interesting fight

[Kev]

I hope him and brook get in the ring soon. Would be an interesting fight

Yeah definitely. I think Brook can be special, but you sense he's going to have to come unstuck first. He relies on his athleticisim too much and could get taught a boxing lesson on the funamentals against a decent, technically sound opponent.

I think Brook could be a great fighter, but I can also see him gettting completely frustrated and losing a lopsided decision to a decent, fundamentally sound opponent when his attacks just don't work for him.

He's kind of where Carl Froch was a few years ago. Clearly talented, but unorthadox and therefore easy to criticise. It might be his undoing, it might be his strength.

Time will tell.

[Julius Rain]

I think he definitely learned from the first match....but i am not sold on him. I think he is very limited and I dont see anything that stands out about him. Power, speed, stamina, punch resistance, etc, I dont see anything special.

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berto would destroy him

[Kev]

berto would destroy him

Don't know about destroy but I think Berto beats him for sure.

Mike Jones is the welterweight Allen Green imo.

[Spicoli]

berto would destroy him

Don't know about destroy but I think Berto beats him for sure.

Mike Jones is the welterweight Allen Green imo.

Frame wise I can see it but thats as far as I'd go. One thing Green didn't do is go right back at the man who had given him hell (Miranda) and for all intents and puposes dominate him to close a chapter. He feasted on peanuts until he stepped up again vs Ward and pulled out of a couple of main events. I think that loss to Miranda had Green seeing ghosts & he never conquered the doubt...or stopped looking at his feet Maybe Jones broke even lastnight but he matured and adjusted beyond the record stats vs his only blemish.

Jones vs Berto. Nice! That would be a solid scrap. But while Berto has been sitting on the cusp for quite some time I believe Jones showed patterns that could give him pause. Collazo and Forbes type shifts and distance boxing that I dont think Berto should be given a full pass on? Jones is a step behind and Berto is more physical but when have you seen a Berto make that type of back to back 'big fight' adaptation? I know this is not an elite in Soto Karass but movement and uppercuts off jab kill Berto. Jones needs a couple more large goes and by that time Berto and Ortiz will have sorted one another out.

[Kev]

berto would destroy him

Don't know about destroy but I think Berto beats him for sure.

Mike Jones is the welterweight Allen Green imo.

Frame wise I can see it but thats as far as I'd go. One thing Green didn't do is go right back at the man who had given him hell (Miranda) and for all intents and puposes dominate him to close a chapter. He feasted on peanuts until he stepped up again vs Ward and pulled out of a couple of main events. I think that loss to Miranda had Green seeing ghosts & he never conquered the doubt...or stopped looking at his feet Maybe Jones broke even lastnight but he matured and adjusted beyond the record stats vs his only blemish.

Jones vs Berto. Nice! That would be a solid scrap. But while Berto has been sitting on the cusp for quite some time I believe Jones showed patterns that could give him pause. Collazo and Forbes type shifts and distance boxing that I dont think Berto should be given a full pass on? Jones is a step behind and Berto is more physical but when have you seen a Berto make that type of back to back 'big fight' adaptation? I know this is not an elite in Soto Karass but movement and uppercuts off jab kill Berto. Jones needs a couple more large goes and by that time Berto and Ortiz will have sorted one another out.

To be fair to Green that's because he lost that fight, and compounded to the fact that Miranda was a HBO favourite had zero leverage to force a rematch. That's to say nothing of the fact that he was also out for a year following it due to emergency colon surgery.

I'm sure Green would have loved a rematch.

Also Miranda, for all his limitations I feel is a step up from Soto Karass. At least Miranda failed when he stepped up to world level. Karass failed against the likes of Alfonso Gomez.

Jones definitely did the job right this time around, but getting it wrong in the first place indicates he will probably never reach the top. I think Allan Green is a pretty accurate analagy in terms of how far I think he will go in the sport. He'll get to fight the world champs, he just won't come close to beating any of them.