Main Reason there was no Ali-Foreman II?

[nikola_ganchev]

For me if there was a second fight someone would have explaint to Formane that there are the so cald score cards and that he must not go inside In this case Ali would not have a chance.
It is astounding how unstable is the psychik of Forman

[rjj tszyu]

George claimed that Ali ruined him psychologically in that documentary where Frazier, Ali, Holmes, Norton and George sat together and broke bread.
Said he attributed the losses to Young etc. to Ali's demolition of his psyche

Champions Forever. Watched it just last week actually.

[brocktonblockbust]

does anyone know what the judges scorecards were b4 the 8th round KO?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Just found the 'Scorecards in rounds':

Zach Clayton 4-2-1 Ali
Nourridine Adalla 3-0-4 Ali
James Taylor 4-1-2 Ali


UD for Ali WTF?!

[porkypara]

Just found the 'Scorecards in rounds':

Zach Clayton 4-2-1 Ali
Nourridine Adalla 3-0-4 Ali
James Taylor 4-1-2 Ali


UD for Ali WTF?!

Good find!

A lot of Formans shots were hitting arms and gloves but I am supprised.

Will have to score the fight myself to see how I would have had it.

[donnydarkoIRL]

George claimed that Ali ruined him psychologically in that documentary where Frazier, Ali, Holmes, Norton and George sat together and broke bread.
Said he attributed the losses to Young etc. to Ali's demolition of his psyche

Champions Forever. Watched it just last week actually.

Nice one buddy, that's the one.

[nikola_ganchev]

This is no surprise for me. When i am watching old Ali's fights it's all the time Ali did this Ali did that and actually he didn't do anything I always turn the sound off!
I don't want to start talking about the corrupted swines in boxing! I am getting angry!

[Master]

This is no surprise for me. When i am watching old Ali's fights it's all the time Ali did this Ali did that and actually he didn't do anything I always turn the sound off!
I don't want to start talking about the corrupted swines in boxing! I am getting angry!

Agreed a lot of the old Ali fights were boring like Spinks fight but he was old and had very little left.

[Lance Uppercut]

-Ali beat Foreman in 1974

-Foreman then took an entire year off

-On the comeback trail, Foreman beat Ron Lyle and Joe Frazier in 1976.

-When the public was finally demanding a rematch, Ali took a 3rd fight against Ken Norton instead.

-After the Norton fight, Ali announced his retirement (this retirement would only last 8 months)

-Foreman went on to fight Jimmy Young and lost, and retired.

- Ali came back out of retirement and fought several more times and went in and out of retirement a couple more times.

[THE THIRD MAN]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

[Master]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

[DaxxKahn]

I'm sure George stated it never happened because he didn't want it to... not really sure what version of george said that... the real one or the PR one

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George did say that more then once...He went into a state of depression after the fight...He siad he lost his conmfidence after ward and when he lost to Young he said he really thought he would never fight again

[Master]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

[THE THIRD MAN]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

I think Frazier gives Holmes as much trouble as he gave ALI, Holmes probably would have outboxed big George. Holmes possessed one of the best jabs in boxing history, it would only be a matter of staying away from Foreman's big shots. (easier said than done) A 30 yr old experienced big George would have been a formidable foe, but Holmes by decision. Frazier would be a nightmare for Holmes, all those angles, all that movement and that left hook!