Main Reason there was no Ali-Foreman II?

[Master]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

[THE THIRD MAN]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

I think Frazier gives Holmes as much trouble as he gave ALI, Holmes probably would have outboxed big George. Holmes possessed one of the best jabs in boxing history, it would only be a matter of staying away from Foreman's big shots. (easier said than done) A 30 yr old experienced big George would have been a formidable foe, but Holmes by decision. Frazier would be a nightmare for Holmes, all those angles, all that movement and that left hook!

[Master]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

I think Frazier gives Holmes as much trouble as he gave ALI, Holmes probably would have outboxed big George. Holmes possessed one of the best jabs in boxing history, it would only be a matter of staying away from Foreman's big shots. (easier said than done) A 30 yr old experienced big George would have been a formidable foe, but Holmes by decision. Frazier would be a nightmare for Holmes, all those angles, all that movement and that left hook!

Holmes not only had the best jab ever of the heavyweight greats he also had an amazing chin and recovery powers. I think that would have helped him survive and beat Frazier. It would have been a a hell of a fight.

[THE THIRD MAN]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

I think Frazier gives Holmes as much trouble as he gave ALI, Holmes probably would have outboxed big George. Holmes possessed one of the best jabs in boxing history, it would only be a matter of staying away from Foreman's big shots. (easier said than done) A 30 yr old experienced big George would have been a formidable foe, but Holmes by decision. Frazier would be a nightmare for Holmes, all those angles, all that movement and that left hook!

Holmes not only had the best jab ever of the heavyweight greats he also had an amazing chin and recovery powers. I think that would have helped him survive and beat Frazier. It would have been a a hell of a fight.

Holmes was tough, i just watched the Shavers knockdown, now if big George hits him like that what happens? I miss the 70's and all the great Heavyweights that were around then. Holmes deserves more credit than he gets, he would have made Lewis look foolish.

[DaxxKahn]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

I think Frazier gives Holmes as much trouble as he gave ALI, Holmes probably would have outboxed big George. Holmes possessed one of the best jabs in boxing history, it would only be a matter of staying away from Foreman's big shots. (easier said than done) A 30 yr old experienced big George would have been a formidable foe, but Holmes by decision. Frazier would be a nightmare for Holmes, all those angles, all that movement and that left hook!

Holmes not only had the best jab ever of the heavyweight greats he also had an amazing chin and recovery powers. I think that would have helped him survive and beat Frazier. It would have been a a hell of a fight.

Holmes was tough, i just watched the Shavers knockdown, now if big George hits him like that what happens? I miss the 70's and all the great Heavyweights that were around then. Holmes deserves more credit than he gets, he would have made Lewis look foolish.

Lets not get out of control here...Lennox Lewis holds his own and beats most of the past pound for pound best heavyweights....He is #4 of all time % at least....Lennox could beat any top HW on his best nights......He was tall used his height and range had a massive right hand and one punch stopping power when he needed to...He was a great finisher....To say Holmes makes him look foolish is just crazy talk

[THE THIRD MAN]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

I think Frazier gives Holmes as much trouble as he gave ALI, Holmes probably would have outboxed big George. Holmes possessed one of the best jabs in boxing history, it would only be a matter of staying away from Foreman's big shots. (easier said than done) A 30 yr old experienced big George would have been a formidable foe, but Holmes by decision. Frazier would be a nightmare for Holmes, all those angles, all that movement and that left hook!

Holmes not only had the best jab ever of the heavyweight greats he also had an amazing chin and recovery powers. I think that would have helped him survive and beat Frazier. It would have been a a hell of a fight.

Holmes was tough, i just watched the Shavers knockdown, now if big George hits him like that what happens? I miss the 70's and all the great Heavyweights that were around then. Holmes deserves more credit than he gets, he would have made Lewis look foolish.

Lets not get out of control here...Lennox Lewis holds his own and beats most of the past pound for pound best heavyweights....He is #4 of all time % at least....Lennox could beat any top HW on his best nights......He was tall used his height and range had a massive right hand and one punch stopping power when he needed to...He was a great finisher....To say Holmes makes him look foolish is just crazy talk

Yes, let's not get out of control here.

[brocktonblockbust]

let's face it larry holmes' greatness comes mainly from his ability to take punsihment and still come back. foreman's greatness wasnt really that----except for in the lyle war---. larry holmes had trouble with EVERYBODY but still won. thats what i'm talking about. everybody gave him plenty of frightening moments, none of his fights except maybe leon spinks and marvis frazier were really big blowouts. HE HAD TO EARN EVERY WIN. it wasnt easy for larry but he did it. thats a big part of his greatness. lewis woulda gave him just as much trouble as cooney or weaver or shavers or witherspoon or anybody else. if larry was in his 1979 prime he would beat lewis. but if larry was in the mid-80s, i think lewis wins.

[DaxxKahn]

I just watched Round 1 again and a lot of the damage in that fight took place there and then. Ali hit George several times with left/right combinations and his right hand leads had George confused. Nobody had done that to George before. George was puffy around the left eye by round 2, he look bewildered. Ali knew he had his man early on in the fight, it was only a matter of time. George only had one basic plan and that was to load up and swing from the bleechers, by round 8 Foreman's tank was empty.
George states he was psychologically damaged after the Ali fight, Ali was never the same either after the Thriller In Manilla. Perhaps it's best we didn't see them go at it again.
How would Holmes have handled a 30 year old more experienced big George in 1979?
Foreman was a beast, tamed by one of the greatest ring tacticians of all time.

Good question about George v Holmes that would be really interesting. I would go with Holmes.

That is my all time favorite fantasy match up. I go with Holmes too. Would of done his legacy the world of good.

I think Holmes beats all those guys from the 60's/ 70's.

Not Ali but may be Frazier, now that would be a classic Holmes v Frazier.

I think Frazier gives Holmes as much trouble as he gave ALI, Holmes probably would have outboxed big George. Holmes possessed one of the best jabs in boxing history, it would only be a matter of staying away from Foreman's big shots. (easier said than done) A 30 yr old experienced big George would have been a formidable foe, but Holmes by decision. Frazier would be a nightmare for Holmes, all those angles, all that movement and that left hook!

Holmes not only had the best jab ever of the heavyweight greats he also had an amazing chin and recovery powers. I think that would have helped him survive and beat Frazier. It would have been a a hell of a fight.

Holmes was tough, i just watched the Shavers knockdown, now if big George hits him like that what happens? I miss the 70's and all the great Heavyweights that were around then. Holmes deserves more credit than he gets, he would have made Lewis look foolish.

Lets not get out of control here...Lennox Lewis holds his own and beats most of the past pound for pound best heavyweights....He is #4 of all time % at least....Lennox could beat any top HW on his best nights......He was tall used his height and range had a massive right hand and one punch stopping power when he needed to...He was a great finisher....To say Holmes makes him look foolish is just crazy talk

Yes, let's not get out of control here.

Who at their peak in HW history would walk over Lewis at is peak?....Please don't tell me you are one ofg those who think he had a glass chin? One so fragile Mercer, Briggs, Tua could not dent....He had one of the best right hands and one of the best jabs plus one shot KO power he has amazing finishing ability plus he could box masterfully....

Patterson?...Sparked by Ingmar....Liston? The bully who folded under pressure...Marciano...The man had a handful of top names on his resume and half the hand was older then dirst when he beat them....Dempsey?....He was a CW in modern times....Frazier? Joes biggest asset was his work rate he crumbled at Foremans power and no reason to think he would fare better after a big LL right...Ali, Louis and Johnson are the only ones I can reasonably say would beat him 8 out of 10 times....