Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
I never said Physical Feats meant everything in a fight, but they are deffinitly the most important in a fight. (Being in shape that is). I'm kinda confused about which post to respond to,tyson or Pacquiao? I agree that if Tyson connected cleanly to Lee it would be lights out, I just dont think he would connect. Theres a reason there is a seperation between the sports of MMA and Boxing. I don't think the best in one sport can beat the best in the other. I take it that these fantasy bruce Lee vs fights were if the 2 bumped into each other on a back alley and didnt like the way the other looked at them. To respond to your post, "Having gloves in a boxing ring with hands only is not a way to judge someones fighting ability either." For Goodness sakes have you watched Kimbo Slice? He is the prime example. He fought only with his hands on youtube and when he comes to MMA he gets embarresed because he wasn't seasoned in the whole game of a street fight! (By the way, I am not a Meat head MMA fan, but I can respect their talents.) I dont' really want to use a washed up James Toney as an example but he was younger than Couture, and he couldnt last one round. I love Boxing but respect both sports but the facts are that MMA is a much more realistic street fight setting and If you put Bruce Lee in the Octagon I think he beats Pacquiao without breaking a sweat and takes a long two rounds to get past the weight issue with Tyson, but still puts him away. Even tho small Bruce Lee was a physical specimen and until someone could deal with that speed they would have extreme problems. Sorry for the long post.

P.S I'm gonna go Friggin Postal on the next person that says Bruce Lee was just an actor!
I don't wanna start a long discussion, but I still wanna point some things out.

First, Kimbo Slice is way closer to Bruce Lee than Tyson. Slice never fought professionally before he entered MMA. Even if he have chosen boxing instead, the outcome would have been the same. Basically, he were a "internet star" that kicked the ass of some random guy, but got pummeled again a professional.

But don't get me wrong about MMA, I firmly believe a MMA fighter got a strong advantage again a boxer of the same size in a MMA ring. But I believe the difference in size is really important.


Let's use an example to show how I see this.

I'm 100% certain modern elite MMA fighter like GSP or B.J. Penn will kick Bruce Lee ass, even if they were at the same weight. It's my point of view since I firmly believe martial art got perfected in the last decades.

Keeping that in mind, I highly doubt a MMA fighter of 140-150 lb would have any real advantage again a 230 pound boxer. Especially a beast like Tyson. Of course, it's easy to say : "Hey, he just have to jump on his feet like Couture again Toney, put Tyson on the ground and it's finished". Well, it doesn't work that way. A perfect example for this is the wrestling match GSP had with former hockey 250 lb brawler George Laraque. Even if GSP was able to put Laraque on the ground, he admitted it was quite hard because of the difference in weight even if Laraque have near zero wrestling experience. And no punch was permitted in that practice.

So if we put wrestling in the trashcan (because of the difference in size), I really think the outcome would have been different in Couture-Toney fight (It's no wonder Couture didn't even tried to compete again Toney on the ground). And if we got back to Lee, his martial art is Kung Fu, so I highly doubt he'll even try to put Tyson on the ground anyway.



Finally, for those who are certain about Tyson's inability to hit Lee, I highly suggest you to watch this video to have a real demonstration of Kid Dynamite speed and accuracy. Each time Lee would get closer to Tyson to kick him, this if what he'll have to avoid :





P.S. Oh yeah, and one last thing, Bruce Lee was just an actor

(Yep, you really asked for it)