Robin Reid V Joe Calzaghe

[ross]

I also read for the lacy fight Reid had to do pads by the pool of the hotel and wasn't given much help in finding somewhere decent to train. Shitty and unprofessional way to treat a fellow pro who travelled a long way.

He also got twatted by a Lacy right hook while he was turned facing and talking to the ref during a break! Only to get a count for it, then in the same fight, Lacy goes down and the ref actually gives him a helping hand up!! That was also a cunt of a ref as well as that fat walrus in the Ottke fight

[armyash]

I also read for the lacy fight Reid had to do pads by the pool of the hotel and wasn't given much help in finding somewhere decent to train. Shitty and unprofessional way to treat a fellow pro who travelled a long way.

He also got twatted by a Lacy right hook while he was turned facing and talking to the ref during a break! Only to get a count for it, then in the same fight, Lacy goes down and the ref actually gives him a helping hand up!! That was also a cunt of a ref as well as that fat walrus in the Ottke fight

Forgot about that ref helping Lacy up! what a joke that was and i'll never forget the Ottke fight i couldn't believe what i was watching must be some of the worst reffing i ever seen. Refs can make mistakes and stop fights too early or too late, that can be down to human error under pressure, the ottke ref was just blatantly corrupt.


in the middle of writing this i thought i'd check the refs name - Roger Tilleman. Googled him and it brought up a lot of other forum results where people are slating him.

Turns out he was a judge in the Kessler v Froch fight and scored 117-111 in favour of kessler. not got a problem with Kessler getting the nod but it just goes to show how shit some people can be, it's not incompetence it's complete disregard for decent sportsmanship.

I'd love to be a ref/judge even if my favourite fighter was competing i'd score it fairly, if he lost i'd make sure my card showed that.

[ross]

I'd love to be a ref/judge even if my favourite fighter was competing i'd score it fairly, if he lost i'd make sure my card showed that.

Im actually training to be a ref and have spoken to some, only amateur refs mind. I have been told some refs like Mickey Van were in promoters pockets and would get told they have to let their fighter go on if hes out on his feet, they have to let him take the punishment and keep them in the fight, if they want to keep getting those reffing jobs. Obviously, lots of favouritism too.

They get paid 10% of the fight purse. If Floyd does fight Pacquiao and its a 100 million fight, the ref for that would get 10 million and he doesnt even have to train!!

[armyash]

Good for you!

It doesn't surprise me about refs being in promoters pockets one bit. I didn't even realise refs were paid or i thought they might receive a small fee but thought it would be mainly expenses.

10%? that's shocking when you consider some of the purses on offer. Not bad for the best view of the fight

[boxingbantz]

Good for you!

It doesn't surprise me about refs being in promoters pockets one bit. I didn't even realise refs were paid or i thought they might receive a small fee but thought it would be mainly expenses.

10%? that's shocking when you consider some of the purses on offer. Not bad for the best view of the fight

Just look at Joe Cortez during the Floyd/Hatton fight. No one can tell he wasn't in Floyd's promotor's pocket. (for the record floyd still would've won with a FAIR referee but the point remains).

[armyash]

Good for you!

It doesn't surprise me about refs being in promoters pockets one bit. I didn't even realise refs were paid or i thought they might receive a small fee but thought it would be mainly expenses.

10%? that's shocking when you consider some of the purses on offer. Not bad for the best view of the fight

Just look at Joe Cortez during the Floyd/Hatton fight. No one can tell he wasn't in Floyd's promotor's pocket. (for the record floyd still would've won with a FAIR referee but the point remains).

oh yeah Cortez was bad that night, i agree Floyd would have still won but the reffing was bullshit, i actually thought Cortez was ok until that night now i can't stand him!

[Fenster]

How the fuck can the ref be on 10% of the overall fight purse? Someone must be pulling your leg?

Why would Team Floyd/Manny give $10million to a guy to do a job millions would do for free? If I was a top Vegas ref i'd start subtlly bumping the others off.

I've read about managers/team members (Frank Maloney with Lennox Lewis) being reduced to 1% of their fighters purse in these mega fights. I would expect the ref to be on less than that.