Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
I don't think Berto has a great chin but Ortiz has shown a lack of heart before I doubt Berto is worse than him in that area....fighters can "learn to lose" and Ortiz seems like he's reached that point and once you reach it it's easier to go back there.
Ortiz has become pretty passive in the ring lately, I mean he def beat Peterson, that draw was horse shit, but still he let up on the guy ! He coulda taken him outta there and should have !

Plus Ortiz is too small for Berto.

Berto should be able to overwhelm Ortiz in the early rounds and get him outta there.

This is a bit of a mismatch IMO.