Cotto questions: ANSWERED

[Rantcatrat]

Well..... as expected, the silence from the Cotto haters (not detractors, mind you... but haters) is DEAFENING. So I'll take it upon myself to list a few of the harsh criticism leveled at Cotto before the fight:

1. Cotto wilts under pressure in the later rounds.

Well... I guess that one was put to bed last night. A TKO win in the 12th round is definitely not the mark of someone who wilts in the later rounds.

2. His heart isn't in it. He's only in it for the money.

An ignorant statement, actually. Cotto already has more money than he knows what to do with. He's still fighting for the only reason why most great fighters continue to fight.... 'cause it's in his blood and 'cause he wants to.

3. He couldn't avoid Margacheato's punches, so he'll be a sitting duck for Mayorga's flurries.

Well... I guess that one got put to bed also. He showed movement, avoided some of Mayorga's wild shots, and basically showed some pretty good defense.

4. He's a quitter.

Ironic, isn't it? It was actually Mayorga who said "No mas", for whatever reason it was. Even more ironic. Haters had Mayorga sending Cotto into retirement, and it seems it may be the other way around. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?


I love this forum, but I wish people who talk the most shit would show up after their predictions blow up in their faces and say...... "You know... I was wrong about so-and-so". He's actually better than I thought.

Yeah, right.

Tito - that underlined portion of your post is the only gripe I have with your statement.

In a sense, I give him a pass on his last two fights. He needed to test the waters at 154 with Foreman before going in deeper, fair enough, and Mayorga is a true junior middleweight who brought a big pay day. Fair play there too. So, let's see where he goes next. I'd prefer to see Cotto in with Berto at 154 than Margarito. I'd also prefer Cotto face Kirkland/Angulo/Dzinziruk/Williams etc before Margarito. Any fight now with Cotto is a PPV, so, it's not like he isn't getting paid anyway.

Great fighters challenge themselves consistently. Mayorga and Foreman aren't challenging for someone of Cotto's caliber. Again, I understand the logic of why he took them, and let's see his next fight. However, Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Williams etc. those are real challenges for great fighters.

At the end of the day, Cotto looked good last night. Damn straight. It was against an old Mayorga, who wasn't ranked in the top ten of the division at the time of the fight, but Cotto still looked good.

[Pavlik]

Well..... as expected, the silence from the Cotto haters (not detractors, mind you... but haters) is DEAFENING. So I'll take it upon myself to list a few of the harsh criticism leveled at Cotto before the fight:

1. Cotto wilts under pressure in the later rounds.

Well... I guess that one was put to bed last night. A TKO win in the 12th round is definitely not the mark of someone who wilts in the later rounds.

2. His heart isn't in it. He's only in it for the money.

An ignorant statement, actually. Cotto already has more money than he knows what to do with. He's still fighting for the only reason why most great fighters continue to fight.... 'cause it's in his blood and 'cause he wants to.

3. He couldn't avoid Margacheato's punches, so he'll be a sitting duck for Mayorga's flurries.

Well... I guess that one got put to bed also. He showed movement, avoided some of Mayorga's wild shots, and basically showed some pretty good defense.

4. He's a quitter.

Ironic, isn't it? It was actually Mayorga who said "No mas", for whatever reason it was. Even more ironic. Haters had Mayorga sending Cotto into retirement, and it seems it may be the other way around. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?


I love this forum, but I wish people who talk the most shit would show up after their predictions blow up in their faces and say...... "You know... I was wrong about so-and-so". He's actually better than I thought.

Yeah, right.

Tito - that underlined portion of your post is the only gripe I have with your statement.

In a sense, I give him a pass on his last two fights. He needed to test the waters at 154 with Foreman before going in deeper, fair enough, and Mayorga is a true junior middleweight who brought a big pay day. Fair play there too. So, let's see where he goes next. I'd prefer to see Cotto in with Berto at 154 than Margarito. I'd also prefer Cotto face Kirkland/Angulo/Dzinziruk/Williams etc before Margarito. Any fight now with Cotto is a PPV, so, it's not like he isn't getting paid anyway.

Great fighters challenge themselves consistently. Mayorga and Foreman aren't challenging for someone of Cotto's caliber. Again, I understand the logic of why he took them, and let's see his next fight. However, Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Williams etc. those are real challenges for great fighters.

At the end of the day, Cotto looked good last night. Damn straight. It was against an old Mayorga, who wasn't ranked in the top ten of the division at the time of the fight, but Cotto still looked good.

Correction Bro:

World Boxing Association Official Site

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SUPER WELTERWEIGHT (154 Lbs/ 69.85) Kgs)
SUPER CHAMPION: MIGUEL COTTO P.R.

World Champion: V A C A N T

Won Title:
Last Mandatory:
Last Defense:

INTERIM CHAMPION: RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ MEX

IBF:

CORNELIUS BONDRAGE

WBO

:SERGEI DZINDZIRUK WBC: MANNY PACQUIAO
1. AUSTIN TROUT (OC) USA
2. JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. MEX
3. NOBUHIRO ISHIDA JPN
4. ZAURBEK BAYSANGUROV (WBA I/C) RUS
5. ERISLANDY LARA (LAC) CUB
6. RICARDO MAYORGA NIC
7. PAWEL WOLAK
8. RYAN RHODES U.K.
9. ANTHONY MUNDINE AUS
10. CHARLIE OTA JPN
11. LUKAS KONECNY CZE
12. HUSSEIN BAYRAM FRA
13. YUKI NONAKA JPN
14. SEBASTIEN MADANI (EBA) FRA

15. ROGERIO PEREIRA (NABA) BR

[TitoFan]

Well..... as expected, the silence from the Cotto haters (not detractors, mind you... but haters) is DEAFENING. So I'll take it upon myself to list a few of the harsh criticism leveled at Cotto before the fight:

1. Cotto wilts under pressure in the later rounds.

Well... I guess that one was put to bed last night. A TKO win in the 12th round is definitely not the mark of someone who wilts in the later rounds.

2. His heart isn't in it. He's only in it for the money.

An ignorant statement, actually. Cotto already has more money than he knows what to do with. He's still fighting for the only reason why most great fighters continue to fight.... 'cause it's in his blood and 'cause he wants to.

3. He couldn't avoid Margacheato's punches, so he'll be a sitting duck for Mayorga's flurries.

Well... I guess that one got put to bed also. He showed movement, avoided some of Mayorga's wild shots, and basically showed some pretty good defense.

4. He's a quitter.

Ironic, isn't it? It was actually Mayorga who said "No mas", for whatever reason it was. Even more ironic. Haters had Mayorga sending Cotto into retirement, and it seems it may be the other way around. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?


I love this forum, but I wish people who talk the most shit would show up after their predictions blow up in their faces and say...... "You know... I was wrong about so-and-so". He's actually better than I thought.

Yeah, right.

Tito - that underlined portion of your post is the only gripe I have with your statement.

In a sense, I give him a pass on his last two fights. He needed to test the waters at 154 with Foreman before going in deeper, fair enough, and Mayorga is a true junior middleweight who brought a big pay day. Fair play there too. So, let's see where he goes next. I'd prefer to see Cotto in with Berto at 154 than Margarito. I'd also prefer Cotto face Kirkland/Angulo/Dzinziruk/Williams etc before Margarito. Any fight now with Cotto is a PPV, so, it's not like he isn't getting paid anyway.

Great fighters challenge themselves consistently. Mayorga and Foreman aren't challenging for someone of Cotto's caliber. Again, I understand the logic of why he took them, and let's see his next fight. However, Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Williams etc. those are real challenges for great fighters.

At the end of the day, Cotto looked good last night. Damn straight. It was against an old Mayorga, who wasn't ranked in the top ten of the division at the time of the fight, but Cotto still looked good.

Correction Bro:

World Boxing Association Official Site

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SUPER WELTERWEIGHT (154 Lbs/ 69.85) Kgs)
SUPER CHAMPION: MIGUEL COTTO P.R.

World Champion: V A C A N T

Won Title:
Last Mandatory:
Last Defense:

INTERIM CHAMPION: RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ MEX

IBF:

CORNELIUS BONDRAGE

WBO

:SERGEI DZINDZIRUK WBC: MANNY PACQUIAO
1. AUSTIN TROUT (OC) USA
2. JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. MEX
3. NOBUHIRO ISHIDA JPN
4. ZAURBEK BAYSANGUROV (WBA I/C) RUS
5. ERISLANDY LARA (LAC) CUB
6. RICARDO MAYORGA NIC
7. PAWEL WOLAK
8. RYAN RHODES U.K.
9. ANTHONY MUNDINE AUS
10. CHARLIE OTA JPN
11. LUKAS KONECNY CZE
12. HUSSEIN BAYRAM FRA
13. YUKI NONAKA JPN
14. SEBASTIEN MADANI (EBA) FRA

15. ROGERIO PEREIRA (NABA) BR

Good job, Pav. I myself didn't know Ricardo was ranked in the top 10. I was honestly surprised to see that. Kudos for doing the research.

[Rantcatrat]

Well..... as expected, the silence from the Cotto haters (not detractors, mind you... but haters) is DEAFENING. So I'll take it upon myself to list a few of the harsh criticism leveled at Cotto before the fight:

1. Cotto wilts under pressure in the later rounds.

Well... I guess that one was put to bed last night. A TKO win in the 12th round is definitely not the mark of someone who wilts in the later rounds.

2. His heart isn't in it. He's only in it for the money.

An ignorant statement, actually. Cotto already has more money than he knows what to do with. He's still fighting for the only reason why most great fighters continue to fight.... 'cause it's in his blood and 'cause he wants to.

3. He couldn't avoid Margacheato's punches, so he'll be a sitting duck for Mayorga's flurries.

Well... I guess that one got put to bed also. He showed movement, avoided some of Mayorga's wild shots, and basically showed some pretty good defense.

4. He's a quitter.

Ironic, isn't it? It was actually Mayorga who said "No mas", for whatever reason it was. Even more ironic. Haters had Mayorga sending Cotto into retirement, and it seems it may be the other way around. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?


I love this forum, but I wish people who talk the most shit would show up after their predictions blow up in their faces and say...... "You know... I was wrong about so-and-so". He's actually better than I thought.

Yeah, right.

Tito - that underlined portion of your post is the only gripe I have with your statement.

In a sense, I give him a pass on his last two fights. He needed to test the waters at 154 with Foreman before going in deeper, fair enough, and Mayorga is a true junior middleweight who brought a big pay day. Fair play there too. So, let's see where he goes next. I'd prefer to see Cotto in with Berto at 154 than Margarito. I'd also prefer Cotto face Kirkland/Angulo/Dzinziruk/Williams etc before Margarito. Any fight now with Cotto is a PPV, so, it's not like he isn't getting paid anyway.

Great fighters challenge themselves consistently. Mayorga and Foreman aren't challenging for someone of Cotto's caliber. Again, I understand the logic of why he took them, and let's see his next fight. However, Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Williams etc. those are real challenges for great fighters.

At the end of the day, Cotto looked good last night. Damn straight. It was against an old Mayorga, who wasn't ranked in the top ten of the division at the time of the fight, but Cotto still looked good.

Correction Bro:

World Boxing Association Official Site

.

　
SUPER WELTERWEIGHT (154 Lbs/ 69.85) Kgs)
SUPER CHAMPION: MIGUEL COTTO P.R.

World Champion: V A C A N T

Won Title:
Last Mandatory:
Last Defense:

INTERIM CHAMPION: RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ MEX

IBF:

CORNELIUS BONDRAGE

WBO

:SERGEI DZINDZIRUK WBC: MANNY PACQUIAO
1. AUSTIN TROUT (OC) USA
2. JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. MEX
3. NOBUHIRO ISHIDA JPN
4. ZAURBEK BAYSANGUROV (WBA I/C) RUS
5. ERISLANDY LARA (LAC) CUB
6. RICARDO MAYORGA NIC
7. PAWEL WOLAK
8. RYAN RHODES U.K.
9. ANTHONY MUNDINE AUS
10. CHARLIE OTA JPN
11. LUKAS KONECNY CZE
12. HUSSEIN BAYRAM FRA
13. YUKI NONAKA JPN
14. SEBASTIEN MADANI (EBA) FRA

15. ROGERIO PEREIRA (NABA) BR

Is that the WBA ranking? We all know sanctioning body's rankings aren't accurate and don't matter. Chavez Jr. is ranked #2 ffs. He was there because Don King got him there.

The Ring Magazine and Espn didn't have Mayorga ranked in their top ten. And the IBO, which has a odd way of ranking (computerized maybe?), doesn't have Mayorga ranked in the top ten. I don't think anyone else had him ranked in their top ten at 154.

[Pavlik]

Well..... as expected, the silence from the Cotto haters (not detractors, mind you... but haters) is DEAFENING. So I'll take it upon myself to list a few of the harsh criticism leveled at Cotto before the fight:

1. Cotto wilts under pressure in the later rounds.

Well... I guess that one was put to bed last night. A TKO win in the 12th round is definitely not the mark of someone who wilts in the later rounds.

2. His heart isn't in it. He's only in it for the money.

An ignorant statement, actually. Cotto already has more money than he knows what to do with. He's still fighting for the only reason why most great fighters continue to fight.... 'cause it's in his blood and 'cause he wants to.

3. He couldn't avoid Margacheato's punches, so he'll be a sitting duck for Mayorga's flurries.

Well... I guess that one got put to bed also. He showed movement, avoided some of Mayorga's wild shots, and basically showed some pretty good defense.

4. He's a quitter.

Ironic, isn't it? It was actually Mayorga who said "No mas", for whatever reason it was. Even more ironic. Haters had Mayorga sending Cotto into retirement, and it seems it may be the other way around. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?


I love this forum, but I wish people who talk the most shit would show up after their predictions blow up in their faces and say...... "You know... I was wrong about so-and-so". He's actually better than I thought.

Yeah, right.

Tito - that underlined portion of your post is the only gripe I have with your statement.

In a sense, I give him a pass on his last two fights. He needed to test the waters at 154 with Foreman before going in deeper, fair enough, and Mayorga is a true junior middleweight who brought a big pay day. Fair play there too. So, let's see where he goes next. I'd prefer to see Cotto in with Berto at 154 than Margarito. I'd also prefer Cotto face Kirkland/Angulo/Dzinziruk/Williams etc before Margarito. Any fight now with Cotto is a PPV, so, it's not like he isn't getting paid anyway.

Great fighters challenge themselves consistently. Mayorga and Foreman aren't challenging for someone of Cotto's caliber. Again, I understand the logic of why he took them, and let's see his next fight. However, Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Williams etc. those are real challenges for great fighters.

At the end of the day, Cotto looked good last night. Damn straight. It was against an old Mayorga, who wasn't ranked in the top ten of the division at the time of the fight, but Cotto still looked good.

Correction Bro:

World Boxing Association Official Site

.

　
SUPER WELTERWEIGHT (154 Lbs/ 69.85) Kgs)
SUPER CHAMPION: MIGUEL COTTO P.R.

World Champion: V A C A N T
Won Title:
Last Mandatory:
Last Defense:
INTERIM CHAMPION: RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ MEX

IBF:

CORNELIUS BONDRAGE

WBO

:SERGEI DZINDZIRUK WBC: MANNY PACQUIAO

1. AUSTIN TROUT (OC) USA
2. JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. MEX
3. NOBUHIRO ISHIDA JPN
4. ZAURBEK BAYSANGUROV (WBA I/C) RUS
5. ERISLANDY LARA (LAC) CUB
6. RICARDO MAYORGA NIC
7. PAWEL WOLAK
8. RYAN RHODES U.K.
9. ANTHONY MUNDINE AUS
10. CHARLIE OTA JPN
11. LUKAS KONECNY CZE
12. HUSSEIN BAYRAM FRA
13. YUKI NONAKA JPN
14. SEBASTIEN MADANI (EBA) FRA

15. ROGERIO PEREIRA (NABA) BR

Is that the WBO ranking? We all know sanctioning body's rankings aren't accurate and don't matter. Chavez Jr. is ranked #2 ffs. He was there because Don King got him there.

The Ring Magazine and Espn didn't have Mayorga ranked in their top ten. And the IBO, which has a odd way of ranking (computerized maybe?), doesn't have Mayorga ranked in the top ten. I don't think anyone else had him ranked in their top ten at 154.

WBA ranking bro.

[Kev]

Ross can have his objections, fair enough. But to say Cotto is ugly is just ridiculous. Along with Sergio Martinez he's one of the most handsome men in the sport.

[Dizaster]

Ross can have his objections, fair enough. But to say Cotto is ugly is just ridiculous. Along with Sergio Martinez he's one of the most handsome men in the sport.

Martinez is quite a handsome one isn't he..

Sergio Pretty Boy Martinez.... he's not gay enough to name himself that though..

[Gandalf]

Ross got hyped for a fight and got his pick wrong. Big deal. It's petty to make such a big deal out of it though. He's admitted he got it wrong and yet we have threads from people who have taken the statements so seriously as to mentally note down each and every argument made over previous weeks. The pick was wrong, the 10-1 favourite won and life goes on.

I agree with the statements about Martinez, he is undoubtedly a fine looking figure of a man. Cotto is more an aquired taste, but I can see why some might go for him. Is that gay enough?

[TitoFan]

Well..... as expected, the silence from the Cotto haters (not detractors, mind you... but haters) is DEAFENING. So I'll take it upon myself to list a few of the harsh criticism leveled at Cotto before the fight:

1. Cotto wilts under pressure in the later rounds.

Well... I guess that one was put to bed last night. A TKO win in the 12th round is definitely not the mark of someone who wilts in the later rounds.

2. His heart isn't in it. He's only in it for the money.

An ignorant statement, actually. Cotto already has more money than he knows what to do with. He's still fighting for the only reason why most great fighters continue to fight.... 'cause it's in his blood and 'cause he wants to.

3. He couldn't avoid Margacheato's punches, so he'll be a sitting duck for Mayorga's flurries.

Well... I guess that one got put to bed also. He showed movement, avoided some of Mayorga's wild shots, and basically showed some pretty good defense.

4. He's a quitter.

Ironic, isn't it? It was actually Mayorga who said "No mas", for whatever reason it was. Even more ironic. Haters had Mayorga sending Cotto into retirement, and it seems it may be the other way around. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?


I love this forum, but I wish people who talk the most shit would show up after their predictions blow up in their faces and say...... "You know... I was wrong about so-and-so". He's actually better than I thought.

Yeah, right.

Tito - that underlined portion of your post is the only gripe I have with your statement.

In a sense, I give him a pass on his last two fights. He needed to test the waters at 154 with Foreman before going in deeper, fair enough, and Mayorga is a true junior middleweight who brought a big pay day. Fair play there too. So, let's see where he goes next. I'd prefer to see Cotto in with Berto at 154 than Margarito. I'd also prefer Cotto face Kirkland/Angulo/Dzinziruk/Williams etc before Margarito. Any fight now with Cotto is a PPV, so, it's not like he isn't getting paid anyway.

Great fighters challenge themselves consistently. Mayorga and Foreman aren't challenging for someone of Cotto's caliber. Again, I understand the logic of why he took them, and let's see his next fight. However, Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Williams etc. those are real challenges for great fighters.

At the end of the day, Cotto looked good last night. Damn straight. It was against an old Mayorga, who wasn't ranked in the top ten of the division at the time of the fight, but Cotto still looked good.

Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Berto... would all be good next opponents for Cotto. Williams I've never through so, 'cause of the size (height) difference. It probably wouldn't be a fan-friendly fight. But let's see what happens. There IS the matter of retribution from the beating Cotto took from MargaCHEATO, although I can also say that CHEATO doesn't deserve a single nickel from a big fight, even though unfortunately it already happened with Pacquiao. Let's see where Team Cotto decides to go next.