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    Default Re: Cotto questions: ANSWERED

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Well..... as expected, the silence from the Cotto haters (not detractors, mind you... but haters) is DEAFENING. So I'll take it upon myself to list a few of the harsh criticism leveled at Cotto before the fight:

    1. Cotto wilts under pressure in the later rounds.

    Well... I guess that one was put to bed last night. A TKO win in the 12th round is definitely not the mark of someone who wilts in the later rounds.

    2. His heart isn't in it. He's only in it for the money.

    An ignorant statement, actually. Cotto already has more money than he knows what to do with. He's still fighting for the only reason why most great fighters continue to fight.... 'cause it's in his blood and 'cause he wants to.

    3. He couldn't avoid Margacheato's punches, so he'll be a sitting duck for Mayorga's flurries.

    Well... I guess that one got put to bed also. He showed movement, avoided some of Mayorga's wild shots, and basically showed some pretty good defense.

    4. He's a quitter.

    Ironic, isn't it? It was actually Mayorga who said "No mas", for whatever reason it was. Even more ironic. Haters had Mayorga sending Cotto into retirement, and it seems it may be the other way around. Karma is a bitch, isn't it?


    I love this forum, but I wish people who talk the most shit would show up after their predictions blow up in their faces and say...... "You know... I was wrong about so-and-so". He's actually better than I thought.

    Yeah, right.

    Tito - that underlined portion of your post is the only gripe I have with your statement.

    In a sense, I give him a pass on his last two fights. He needed to test the waters at 154 with Foreman before going in deeper, fair enough, and Mayorga is a true junior middleweight who brought a big pay day. Fair play there too. So, let's see where he goes next. I'd prefer to see Cotto in with Berto at 154 than Margarito. I'd also prefer Cotto face Kirkland/Angulo/Dzinziruk/Williams etc before Margarito. Any fight now with Cotto is a PPV, so, it's not like he isn't getting paid anyway.

    Great fighters challenge themselves consistently. Mayorga and Foreman aren't challenging for someone of Cotto's caliber. Again, I understand the logic of why he took them, and let's see his next fight. However, Kirkland, Angulo, Dzinziruk, Williams etc. those are real challenges for great fighters.

    At the end of the day, Cotto looked good last night. Damn straight. It was against an old Mayorga, who wasn't ranked in the top ten of the division at the time of the fight, but Cotto still looked good.
    Correction Bro:

    World Boxing Association Official Site

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    SUPER WELTERWEIGHT (154 Lbs/ 69.85) Kgs)
    SUPER CHAMPION: MIGUEL COTTO P.R.
    World Champion: V A C A N T
    Won Title:
    Last Mandatory:
    Last Defense:
    INTERIM CHAMPION: RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ MEX


    IBF:
    CORNELIUS BONDRAGE
    WBO


    :SERGEI DZINDZIRUK WBC: MANNY PACQUIAO
    1. AUSTIN TROUT (OC) USA
    2. JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. MEX
    3. NOBUHIRO ISHIDA JPN
    4. ZAURBEK BAYSANGUROV (WBA I/C) RUS
    5. ERISLANDY LARA (LAC) CUB
    6. RICARDO MAYORGA NIC
    7. PAWEL WOLAK
    8. RYAN RHODES U.K.
    9. ANTHONY MUNDINE AUS
    10. CHARLIE OTA JPN
    11. LUKAS KONECNY CZE
    12. HUSSEIN BAYRAM FRA
    13. YUKI NONAKA JPN
    14. SEBASTIEN MADANI (EBA) FRA

    15. ROGERIO PEREIRA (NABA) BR



    Is that the WBO ranking? We all know sanctioning body's rankings aren't accurate and don't matter. Chavez Jr. is ranked #2 ffs. He was there because Don King got him there.

    The Ring Magazine and Espn didn't have Mayorga ranked in their top ten. And the IBO, which has a odd way of ranking (computerized maybe?), doesn't have Mayorga ranked in the top ten. I don't think anyone else had him ranked in their top ten at 154.


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    Default Re: Cotto questions: ANSWERED

    Ross can have his objections, fair enough. But to say Cotto is ugly is just ridiculous. Along with Sergio Martinez he's one of the most handsome men in the sport.

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    Default Re: Cotto questions: ANSWERED

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Ross can have his objections, fair enough. But to say Cotto is ugly is just ridiculous. Along with Sergio Martinez he's one of the most handsome men in the sport.
    Martinez is quite a handsome one isn't he..

    Sergio Pretty Boy Martinez.... he's not gay enough to name himself that though..
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    Default Re: Cotto questions: ANSWERED

    Ross got hyped for a fight and got his pick wrong. Big deal. It's petty to make such a big deal out of it though. He's admitted he got it wrong and yet we have threads from people who have taken the statements so seriously as to mentally note down each and every argument made over previous weeks. The pick was wrong, the 10-1 favourite won and life goes on.

    I agree with the statements about Martinez, he is undoubtedly a fine looking figure of a man. Cotto is more an aquired taste, but I can see why some might go for him. Is that gay enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Ross got hyped for a fight and got his pick wrong. Big deal. It's petty to make such a big deal out of it though. He's admitted he got it wrong and yet we have threads from people who have taken the statements so seriously as to mentally note down each and every argument made over previous weeks. The pick was wrong, the 10-1 favourite won and life goes on.

    I agree with the statements about Martinez, he is undoubtedly a fine looking figure of a man. Cotto is more an aquired taste, but I can see why some might go for him. Is that gay enough?

    Instead of "people", why didn't you just say "TitoFan"? Listen, I got no beef with you. A handful of saddo'ers were picking and hoping Mayorga would win. Have I done the same to them? No, right? Ross is a hater, starting with hoping for Cotto's surgically-repaired shoulder to hamper him during the fight... and continuing his song-and-dance about Cotto being a quitter and being a shitty fighter. I don't know whether to call it hate, or ignorance. Either way, I did what I did for a reason.

    Now sit there and tell me that had Mayorga KO'ed Cotto, Ross wouldn't be calling us out and spewing his Cotto-hate all over the forum, probably for a whole month. So spare me your "leave the poor dude alone" spiel. Besides... I'm winding down.


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    Default Re: Cotto questions: ANSWERED

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Ross got hyped for a fight and got his pick wrong. Big deal. It's petty to make such a big deal out of it though. He's admitted he got it wrong and yet we have threads from people who have taken the statements so seriously as to mentally note down each and every argument made over previous weeks. The pick was wrong, the 10-1 favourite won and life goes on.

    I agree with the statements about Martinez, he is undoubtedly a fine looking figure of a man. Cotto is more an aquired taste, but I can see why some might go for him. Is that gay enough?

    Instead of "people", why didn't you just say "TitoFan"? Listen, I got no beef with you. A handful of saddo'ers were picking and hoping Mayorga would win. Have I done the same to them? No, right? Ross is a hater, starting with hoping for Cotto's surgically-repaired shoulder to hamper him during the fight... and continuing his song-and-dance about Cotto being a quitter and being a shitty fighter. I don't know whether to call it hate, or ignorance. Either way, I did what I did for a reason.

    Now sit there and tell me that had Mayorga KO'ed Cotto, Ross wouldn't be calling us out and spewing his Cotto-hate all over the forum, probably for a whole month. So spare me your "leave the poor dude alone" spiel. Besides... I'm winding down.

    don't know what he's going on about after the Khan/Barrera massacre that's all he'd talk about

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    Default Re: Cotto questions: ANSWERED

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Ross got hyped for a fight and got his pick wrong. Big deal. It's petty to make such a big deal out of it though. He's admitted he got it wrong and yet we have threads from people who have taken the statements so seriously as to mentally note down each and every argument made over previous weeks. The pick was wrong, the 10-1 favourite won and life goes on.

    I agree with the statements about Martinez, he is undoubtedly a fine looking figure of a man. Cotto is more an aquired taste, but I can see why some might go for him. Is that gay enough?

    Instead of "people", why didn't you just say "TitoFan"? Listen, I got no beef with you. A handful of saddo'ers were picking and hoping Mayorga would win. Have I done the same to them? No, right? Ross is a hater, starting with hoping for Cotto's surgically-repaired shoulder to hamper him during the fight... and continuing his song-and-dance about Cotto being a quitter and being a shitty fighter. I don't know whether to call it hate, or ignorance. Either way, I did what I did for a reason.

    Now sit there and tell me that had Mayorga KO'ed Cotto, Ross wouldn't be calling us out and spewing his Cotto-hate all over the forum, probably for a whole month. So spare me your "leave the poor dude alone" spiel. Besides... I'm winding down.

    Both you and ElTerribleMorales have been on the same battleground for a while now, so that's why I used a plural term. I just don't know why people got so antagonised and wound up by this fight. Maybe calling people out is par for the course on boxing sites, but I think it's kind of silly to take it so seriously. It's just a boxing contest and the heavy favourite got his win. He was made to work hard at times, but Mayorga did alright for an old guy who couldn't fight more than in spurts. He certainly didn't get blown away like many were predicting. And having said that, Cotto did alright too. He boxed cautiously and fought within himself. It was a more measured performance from him too.

    I don't know what ElTerrible is on about in the previous post. Khan/Barrera was criminal, there was no controvery about this fight. Certainly no reason for anyone to be harping on about anything untoward. Totally different circumstances.

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    Default Re: Cotto questions: ANSWERED

    Miles just count your lucky stars Danny G isnt here, we would have to watch a million photoshopped videos of Mayorga getting knocked down in slow motion, and missing flailing combos. Titofan would have to quote a hell of alot more than that to even come close. Danny G would probably put a montage of all Mayorga losses together with every punch he took, and every knockdown, with subtitles.

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