Perspective/ Hindsight: Oscar De La Hoya V Floyd Mayweather

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

You must remember Floyd gave all concessions to ODH, weight, gloves etc and was the under dog in many people eyes with Hindsight it looks like a poor victory but at that time it was one of Floyd's greatest achievements.

Good point. Oscar got the lions share of the purse too, I think.

[erik_corrales]

You must remember Floyd gave all concessions to ODH, weight, gloves etc and was the under dog in many people eyes with Hindsight it looks like a poor victory but at that time it was one of Floyd's greatest achievements.

Good point. Oscar got the lions share of the purse too, I think.

agree with all this. also, this is the fight where floyd started having the diva-persona.

[Dizaster]

A serious question I still have with that fight, is why ODLH, who was seriously controlling that fight and actually had the style to beat Floyd, suddenly threw out his winning formula three quarters through the fight, and let Floyd come over the top of him...

Shot or not, or on the slide, skill wise he had the goods to win that fight... If he had let his hands go more, and kept his jab going until the end of the fight, he would have won... I don't find that to be Floyd's best win because DLH either could not possibly fight at what he was capable of previously (otherwise he would have won) OR, he couldn't fight the end of the fight at the same standard he started it at (otherwise he would have won)...

Floyd fought a DLH who was running at 60%....

That much I am sure of....

[Master]

A serious question I still have with that fight, is why ODLH, who was seriously controlling that fight and actually had the style to beat Floyd, suddenly threw out his winning formula three quarters through the fight, and let Floyd come over the top of him...

Shot or not, or on the slide, skill wise he had the goods to win that fight... If he had let his hands go more, and kept his jab going until the end of the fight, he would have won... I don't find that to be Floyd's best win because DLH either could not possibly fight at what he was capable of previously (otherwise he would have won) OR, he couldn't fight the end of the fight at the same standard he started it at (otherwise he would have won)...

Floyd fought a DLH who was running at 60%....

That much I am sure of....

I think you are right, he did tire out or always conscious of tiring slowed down. Roach also found out that he was not the same fighter he once was in the training camp and allowed Pac to fight him for that reason.

[erik_corrales]

he stopped using his winning formula(i.e. jab) cause he was getting hit back by a right cross(i don't remember, need to watch it again)

and is this true, i read it somewhere that ODLH is coming out of retirement

[Spicoli]

I had Oscar 3-3 going into this fight. And frankly thought Sturm 'beat' him more convincingly then Mayweather. I dont think he was peak at all but a worthy win for Floyd....just happy they didn't have much talked about rematch.

[generalbulldog]

he stopped using his winning formula(i.e. jab) cause he was getting hit back by a right cross(i don't remember, need to watch it again)

and is this true, i read it somewhere that ODLH is coming out of retirement

Actually I do remember Floyd kept on countering him with the right, that's why he stopped throwing the jab, I haven;t seen it since live.

[Dizaster]

he stopped using his winning formula(i.e. jab) cause he was getting hit back by a right cross(i don't remember, need to watch it again)

and is this true, i read it somewhere that ODLH is coming out of retirement

Actually I do remember Floyd kept on countering him with the right, that's why he stopped throwing the jab, I haven;t seen it since live.

That's interesting, I'm going to have to watch the fight again as my impression of it was that Oscar just let up with what was working, which let Floyd soon start to land more.... But could be your way as well...

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Round 5
I remember this round because it confirmed that HBO are most times too busy either arguing amongst themselves or waiting for Larry Merchant to finish talking to actually take note of things that the 'other' fighter is doing!