The Cuban Defectors

[El Kabong]

Well what about Yan Bartholomey(sp?) on FNF? I'm unimpressed by him. How about Despaigne? I just think a lot of the Cubans owe their amateur success to fighting the young kids that other countries put out there.

I'm not saying there aren't good Cuban boxers, I'm saying they are massively overhyped.

[No Contest]

Well what about Yan Bartholomey(sp?) on FNF? I'm unimpressed by him. How about Despaigne? I just think a lot of the Cubans owe their amateur success to fighting the young kids that other countries put out there.

I'm not saying there aren't good Cuban boxers, I'm saying they are massively overhyped.

I think Teddy said it best, they have it stricter in Cuba and once they get out and a lil freedom/easier way of life they tend to slack off in training. In Cuba they had to fight and train harder to earn the higher quality of living.They lose that hunger some of them. Gamboa and Casamayor have been solid pros though. Rigondeaux could be the next good one.

[Kev]

Well what about Yan Bartholomey(sp?) on FNF? I'm unimpressed by him. How about Despaigne? I just think a lot of the Cubans owe their amateur success to fighting the young kids that other countries put out there.

I'm not saying there aren't good Cuban boxers, I'm saying they are massively overhyped.

How are they overhyped exactly? Most of them have only fought on Friday Night Fights and only the hardcore fans have ever heard of them.

None of them have headlined a HBO or Showtime card so I'm not really sure what you are on about.

Are you saying they aren't good enough to be the feature attraction on FNF or fight on an undercard on HBO.

Because I think that's ridiculous.

Gamboa is hands down one of the most exciting fighters the sport, he deserves any attention he gets, great for boxing. Landra and Rigondieux, along with Solis have had pretty low key careers thus far. Can't recall Max Kellerman or Barry McGuigain ever jumping on their nutsacks.

They are all progressing well.

[No Contest]

Well what about Yan Bartholomey(sp?) on FNF? I'm unimpressed by him. How about Despaigne? I just think a lot of the Cubans owe their amateur success to fighting the young kids that other countries put out there.

I'm not saying there aren't good Cuban boxers, I'm saying they are massively overhyped.

How are they overhyped exactly? Most of them have only fought on Friday Night Fights and only the hardcore fans have ever heard of them.

None of them have headlined a HBO or Showtime card so I'm not really sure what you are on about.

Are you saying they aren't good enough to be the feature attraction on FNF or fight on an undercard on HBO.

Because I think that's ridiculous.

Gamboa is hands down one of the most exciting fighters the sport, he deserves any attention he gets, great for boxing. Landra and Rigondieux, along with Solis have had pretty low key careers thus far. Can't recall Max Kellerman or Barry McGuigain ever jumping on their nutsacks.

They are all progressing well.

Well you would hear alot more about Gamboa than a normal guy with his experience at pro lvl, getting tv fights and such being only like 6 or 7 fights into it. Just like Rigondeaux getting a "interm" shot at only what 7 fights. They were talking about Solis ever since he beat Jeremy Bates. I dont think its way overhyped compared to other am stars though. Barry McGuigan was all over Rigondeaux's nutsack in the Casey fight. He was like 200 something wins and about 4 defeats so its justified I guess. I still am not 100% sure about his chin, but he can box great.

[Kev]

Well what about Yan Bartholomey(sp?) on FNF? I'm unimpressed by him. How about Despaigne? I just think a lot of the Cubans owe their amateur success to fighting the young kids that other countries put out there.

I'm not saying there aren't good Cuban boxers, I'm saying they are massively overhyped.

How are they overhyped exactly? Most of them have only fought on Friday Night Fights and only the hardcore fans have ever heard of them.

None of them have headlined a HBO or Showtime card so I'm not really sure what you are on about.

Are you saying they aren't good enough to be the feature attraction on FNF or fight on an undercard on HBO.

Because I think that's ridiculous.

Gamboa is hands down one of the most exciting fighters the sport, he deserves any attention he gets, great for boxing. Landra and Rigondieux, along with Solis have had pretty low key careers thus far. Can't recall Max Kellerman or Barry McGuigain ever jumping on their nutsacks.

They are all progressing well.

Well you would hear alot more about Gamboa than a normal guy with his experience at pro lvl, getting tv fights and such being only like 6 or 7 fights into it. Just like Rigondeaux getting a "interm" shot at only what 7 fights. They were talking about Solis ever since he beat Jeremy Bates. I dont think its way overhyped compared to other am stars though. Barry McGuigan was all over Rigondeaux's nutsack in the Casey fight. He was like 200 something wins and about 4 defeats so its justified I guess. I still am not 100% sure about his chin, but he can box great.

How is any of that overhype though?

Gamboa is already a belt holder, is one of the most explosive fighters in the world and legitimately ranked in the top 3 in his weight class. That's not hype.

Odlanier Solis is one of the most heavily decorated amatuers of all time. An Olympic gold medallist and three time world amatuer champion at two weights his entry into professional boxing was far too low key imo. If he had been British or American he would have been an instant superstar like Khan or De La Hoya from his first pro fight.

Instead he's virtually unknown and sadly will now remain that way for a while.

No overhype though. None whatsoever.