If David Haye loses to Vitali in July...

[erics44]

1. I dont, both klits would be the favourite if they fought haye (actually im not so sure wlad would now he seems to have lost bottle and doesnt believe himself he would win)

2. whether i could or i couldnt it still isnt a fact

3. Haye was getting to keep his shorts and got a free kebab for the fight he pulled out of, plus he wasnt allowed to leave germany until he fought evey heavyweight in the country till he lost, so yep you are right this fight he gets his dues and a fair slice of the pie

4. dont think so dude, think wlad has bottled it big time

1. It doesn't matter who you think is the favorite it's who YOU'RE BACKING and having read your posts you don't back either Klitschko brother.

2. Well it looks more like a fact now since you've just given up on trying to prove me wrong

3. It's not Wlad's fault Setanta went bust and it wasn't Wlad's idea that the WBA title holder lie about why he couldn't fight that time.

4. Funny...we'll see come fight night who's bottled what

1. im not backing anyone, if i was to put money on it i would put it on klit, but im not so im not, if i was to put my money on anything it would be wlad wont fight

2. it not a fact dude, here is an example of a fact - Wlad Klit is a world heavyweight champion - theres no doubt about that so it is a fact - your comment is debateable and yet to be tried and tested so it isnt a fact soz

3. its wlads fault that he wants his cake and eats it

4. i dont think i have anything more to say on this one soz

[El Kabong]

1. im not backing anyone, if i was to put money on it i would put it on klit, but im not so im not, if i was to put my money on anything it would be wlad wont fight

2. it not a fact dude, here is an example of a fact - Wlad Klit is a world heavyweight champion - theres no doubt about that so it is a fact - your comment is debateable and yet to be tried and tested so it isnt a fact soz

3. its wlads fault that he wants his cake and eats it

4. i dont think i have anything more to say on this one soz

1: OK, then why bother arguing with me?

2. The judges' scorecards support my claim...FACT

3. Wlad is THE champ not just "a title holder"....don't forget it

4. You don't have anything more to say because you never had anything to stand on, you couldn't back up your wild allegations.

[erics44]

1. im not backing anyone, if i was to put money on it i would put it on klit, but im not so im not, if i was to put my money on anything it would be wlad wont fight

2. it not a fact dude, here is an example of a fact - Wlad Klit is a world heavyweight champion - theres no doubt about that so it is a fact - your comment is debateable and yet to be tried and tested so it isnt a fact soz

3. its wlads fault that he wants his cake and eats it

4. i dont think i have anything more to say on this one soz

1: OK, then why bother arguing with me?

2. The judges' scorecards support my claim...FACT

3. Wlad is THE champ not just "a title holder"....don't forget it

4. You don't have anything more to say because you never had anything to stand on, you couldn't back up your wild allegations.

1. we are discussing wlad being a girl not who would win

2. the judges score cards support your claim that shag can take more punishment than haye?

3. i wont forget than dude

4. i do

thats looking like 4-0 to me, it is a fact that i won 1 and 2, 3 and 4 are debateable but its looking like i am right so best you can hope for is a 2-2 draw

[BIG H]

My opinion remains as it always has. Haye gets stopped inside 6 rounds against Wlad and inside 3 against Vitali. He does, however have a very realistic chnace of beating Wlad (if Sanders can and Brewster can and Purity can, Haye can!!) I don't think Wlad's durabilty has improved since those fights, I just think he has become more cautious. He has been doWn 11 times, and therefore Haye definitely has a chance.

Versus Vitali I give Haye a 0% chance

[El Kabong]

My opinion remains as it always has. Haye gets stopped inside 6 rounds against Wlad and inside 3 against Vitali. He does, however have a very realistic chnace of beating Wlad (if Sanders can and Brewster can and Purity can, Haye can!!) I don't think Wlad's durabilty has improved since those fights, I just think he has become more cautious. He has been doWn 11 times, and therefore Haye definitely has a chance.

Versus Vitali I give Haye a 0% chance

The guys that knocked Wlad down either A) Withstood serious punishment to the point where Wlad was tired or B) Had legitimate heavyweight punching power....does the WBA title holder have that? Maybe he does maybe he doesn't....he's got fast hands, but he couldn't stop Valuev, it took him a while to finish off Monte Barrett and John Ruiz. As for caution....who fought Audley Harrison last and how did he look doing it?

Corrie Sanders was a southpaw with a deadly left cross...one that also need I remind you hurt Vitali as much as Lennox Lewis ever did. Not everyone is on the same level in regards to how hard they punch.

[BIG H]

My opinion remains as it always has. Haye gets stopped inside 6 rounds against Wlad and inside 3 against Vitali. He does, however have a very realistic chnace of beating Wlad (if Sanders can and Brewster can and Purity can, Haye can!!) I don't think Wlad's durabilty has improved since those fights, I just think he has become more cautious. He has been doWn 11 times, and therefore Haye definitely has a chance.

Versus Vitali I give Haye a 0% chance

The guys that knocked Wlad down either A) Withstood serious punishment to the point where Wlad was tired or B) Had legitimate heavyweight punching power....does the WBA title holder have that? Maybe he does maybe he doesn't....he's got fast hands, but he couldn't stop Valuev, it took him a while to finish off Monte Barrett and John Ruiz. As for caution....who fought Audley Harrison last and how did he look doing it?

Corrie Sanders was a southpaw with a deadly left cross...one that also need I remind you hurt Vitali as much as Lennox Lewis ever did. Not everyone is on the same level in regards to how hard they punch.

Don't mistake me as a Haye fan I think both Klits beat him, but he has a legitimate chance against Wlad, who's limitations have be shown over and over again. Down 11 times That can only be down to one thing and 11 excuses cannot be found or legitimized.

For the record - I think Haye is way way overrated and very limited. Yeh, he has skills, but he's no great heavyweight and never will be.

[El Kabong]

...fine, have fun on planet Dumb Ass