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    First of all Lewis would have about 35lbs on Louis who fought in his prime at 200-203lb, having said that, i believe the lumbering Lennox Lewis would find the power of Joe Louis on the inside to much for him. Tyson in his prime would KO Lewis and so would Joe Frazier, i see no reason why Joe Louis wouldn't do the same. Lennox Lewis was a lazy fighter, he got hit often and nailed twice... badly. Lennox Lewis is no Joe Louis!!
    Lewis was never outboxed or beaten down by anybody. He got knocked out my 2 punches that would've floored any heavyweight in history imo. Without a doubt NOBODY could've stood up to the Rahman punch. Apart from Mercer and Vitali, nobody ever came close to beating him. I don't think those 2 KOs were as damaging as if he had've been beat down and outclassed for 12 rounds by somebody. All those KOs told us was that Lewis was occasionally lazy, unprepared and poor definsively. I think he absolutely belongs in the same breath as Joe Louis
    Larry Holmes took a harder punch off Earnie Shavers, and was up at the count of 4. There's plenty of fighters who could of took that shot and got up.

    Marion Wilson
    Muhammad Ali
    Larry Holmes
    Oliver McCall
    Ray Mercer
    Rocky Marciano
    Joe Frazier
    Mike Tyson

    ETC.

    You make out like it was most devastating shot in Heavyweight history, Lennox Lewis was also caught plenty by Shannon Briggs, Ray Mercer. I always thought he was lazy in alot of his fights. Its just he invited Hasim Rahman to hit him with his hands down.

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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

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    First of all Lewis would have about 35lbs on Louis who fought in his prime at 200-203lb, having said that, i believe the lumbering Lennox Lewis would find the power of Joe Louis on the inside to much for him. Tyson in his prime would KO Lewis and so would Joe Frazier, i see no reason why Joe Louis wouldn't do the same. Lennox Lewis was a lazy fighter, he got hit often and nailed twice... badly. Lennox Lewis is no Joe Louis!!
    Lewis was never outboxed or beaten down by anybody. He got knocked out my 2 punches that would've floored any heavyweight in history imo. Without a doubt NOBODY could've stood up to the Rahman punch. Apart from Mercer and Vitali, nobody ever came close to beating him. I don't think those 2 KOs were as damaging as if he had've been beat down and outclassed for 12 rounds by somebody. All those KOs told us was that Lewis was occasionally lazy, unprepared and poor definsively. I think he absolutely belongs in the same breath as Joe Louis
    Larry Holmes took a harder punch off Earnie Shavers, and was up at the count of 4. There's plenty of fighters who could of took that shot and got up.

    Marion Wilson
    Muhammad Ali
    Larry Holmes
    Oliver McCall
    Ray Mercer
    Rocky Marciano
    Joe Frazier
    Mike Tyson

    ETC.

    You make out like it was most devastating shot in Heavyweight history, Lennox Lewis was also caught plenty by Shannon Briggs, Ray Mercer. I always thought he was lazy in alot of his fights. Its just he invited Hasim Rahman to hit him with his hands down.
    That's all subjective mate, nobody can know that.

    Yeh he was caught plenty, but didn't go down. I said that I don't think anybody would've 'stood up' to the Rahman punch and I stick by that. Somebody may have got back up from it, but I doubt it.

    How Holmes got up and survived against Shavers is beyond me. He can't have been human
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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

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    First of all Lewis would have about 35lbs on Louis who fought in his prime at 200-203lb, having said that, i believe the lumbering Lennox Lewis would find the power of Joe Louis on the inside to much for him. Tyson in his prime would KO Lewis and so would Joe Frazier, i see no reason why Joe Louis wouldn't do the same. Lennox Lewis was a lazy fighter, he got hit often and nailed twice... badly. Lennox Lewis is no Joe Louis!!
    Lewis was never outboxed or beaten down by anybody. He got knocked out my 2 punches that would've floored any heavyweight in history imo. Without a doubt NOBODY could've stood up to the Rahman punch. Apart from Mercer and Vitali, nobody ever came close to beating him. I don't think those 2 KOs were as damaging as if he had've been beat down and outclassed for 12 rounds by somebody. All those KOs told us was that Lewis was occasionally lazy, unprepared and poor definsively. I think he absolutely belongs in the same breath as Joe Louis
    Larry Holmes took a harder punch off Earnie Shavers, and was up at the count of 4. There's plenty of fighters who could of took that shot and got up.

    Marion Wilson
    Muhammad Ali
    Larry Holmes
    Oliver McCall
    Ray Mercer
    Rocky Marciano
    Joe Frazier
    Mike Tyson

    ETC.

    You make out like it was most devastating shot in Heavyweight history, Lennox Lewis was also caught plenty by Shannon Briggs, Ray Mercer. I always thought he was lazy in alot of his fights. Its just he invited Hasim Rahman to hit him with his hands down.
    Journeymen that become survival experts doesn't mean they have a granite chin. It's silly to add Wilson to that list. Might as well put Johnny Nelson on there.

    Of all the fighters you've listed - I would bet only Oliver McCall would not go down from that punch. It not only landed right on the button he also didn't see it coming. The worst punch possible to take.
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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    Joe Loius would be too small for Lennox. I see Lewis Ko'ing him late but Joe having some good moments also

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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    Lennox Lewis would destroy Joe Louis.

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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    To much size. A light heavy vs a big true heavy. To compare really not far. Different era. Vitali Klits would have beat Joe simply because of size. Cant compare.

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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    Lennox lewis would smash Louis i mean lets be real here size advantage alone is alot.

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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    Louis can punch and hurt Lennox so Lennox will have to keep his distance but if he made Lewis could be KOed.
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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    2 of the greatest ever no doubt. But I feel that Louis may well have been too tough for Lennox. He had dynamite in his hands even as a small HW and his will to win combined with that power was like nothing Lennox faced. It would be like a combination of Tyson and Holyfield and I feel that would have been too much for Lennox as I think even a past his prime Evander got a draw against a prime Lennox in the rematch. I think the results of the Lennox vs Evander fights were right, just the order they came in were wrong.

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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    Yeah I've reached the stage where you just have to say its impossible to compare eras. In sport or anything.

    If you're the best of your era you've done the job and nothing more can be asked - Fury can still reach this goal.

    Had some clown in the pub the other day telling me how Brazil team of 1970 would murder the current Man City side...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Yeah I've reached the stage where you just have to say its impossible to compare eras. In sport or anything.

    If you're the best of your era you've done the job and nothing more can be asked - Fury can still reach this goal.

    Had some clown in the pub the other day telling me how Brazil team of 1970 would murder the current Man City side...

    See why I post side by side to expose lunatics who just speak without comparing side by side, of course a guy looks great vs guys of his own era or watching
    highlights which don't show everything,

    so i match them up side by side full rounds and see how obsolete/outdated they are when a person can see every angle/tech/timing/defense between each era

    The 70s were very dated compared to the 80s let alone the 90s in most sports

    Most on yt don't match up side by side full rounds like me cause it hurts to see the truth of how novice like the louis era was/Dempsey era no one even made mid card fighting exactly like those guys in the 70s-'90s
    Last edited by joe smith; 01-09-2024 at 05:53 PM.

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    Default Re: Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis in their primes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    Yeah I've reached the stage where you just have to say its impossible to compare eras. In sport or anything.

    If you're the best of your era you've done the job and nothing more can be asked - Fury can still reach this goal.

    Had some clown in the pub the other day telling me how Brazil team of 1970 would murder the current Man City side...
    looks like novices compared to 70s-90s

    And lennox even in his first top pro 10 matches was way more even than the 70s let alone the novice like era louis fought in so why was this named prime vs prime

    Anybody who gave louis any chance or wins is a lunatic
    Last edited by joe smith; 01-20-2024 at 04:33 PM.

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