What a sad time it is in the heavyweights when wlad v haye is such a big fight!

[Mark TKO]

Agree with everything you say but thats the heavyweight landscape so I guess we git to be thankful that a fight has actually come along thats got people talking

To my mind there not been a big heavyweight fight since Vitali v Lewis has there Well not for me anyway.

And yep Wlad is just a big fucker as you say H. A few inches shorter and people would have been saying that Pele Reid had a better career.

[generalbulldog]

Of course that's how sad the division is now. Wlad and Haye would be mediocre contenders in the 90s thats not good enough to even win an abc title.

[Rantcatrat]

I'm not really sure about all that. Wlad has been a champion for a long, long time. He's taken the "0's" from 4 different fighters and he's fought in a half dozen different countries. He came to the United States to fight the best there is here too. His competition hasn't been great, but it's been decent. He would be alright in any time of history if you ask me. He'd lose some and he'd win some with the best. Haye's hype is premature if you ask me, but he was a cruiserweight champion and he got a belt at heavyweight in one of his first fights in the division so it is not unprecedented. Would I have liked to see him fight the Arreola's, Chambers, and Povetkins before stepping in with Wlad? Sure, but it's still an exciting fight.

[El Kabong]

Of course that's how sad the division is now. Wlad and Haye would be mediocre contenders in the 90s thats not good enough to even win an abc title.

Oh absolutely Wlad would have a hell of a time beating those marvelous fighters that held belts in the 1990's:
Tommy Morrison
Michael Moorer
Post-Prison Mike Tyson
Buster Douglas
Riddick Bowe
Old George Foreman
Bruce Seldon
Oliver McCall
Frank Bruno
Herbie Hide
Michael Bentt
Ray Mercer
Axel Schultz

...I'll spot you Lennox and Evander but seriously you don't think Wladimir would beat those guys? You must have lost your damn mind! And HELL NO Riddick Bowe wouldn't win vs Wlad Riddick NEVER FOUGHT A PUNCHER....EVER. Evander Holyfield is the biggest puncher Riddick ever fought (as a pro) of course we know what happened to him as an amateur...but whatever you've made up your minds. Feel free to continue not appreciating greatness.