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    I think I would roll with Sonny Liston and his jab.
    Unless he had to face Ali? Which on the basis of this competition, he would have to
    People underrate Sonny Liston, no one knew his true age, reports say he was close to 40 when he fought Muhammad Ali i believe.

    He actually had one of the best jabs in Heavyweight history, and ridiculously long reach for his height at 84 inches. And joke reports used to say his hand size was the size on dinner plates.

    I think Sonny Liston is one of the most underrated Heavyweight champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    I think I would roll with Sonny Liston and his jab.
    Unless he had to face Ali? Which on the basis of this competition, he would have to
    People underrate Sonny Liston, no one knew his true age, reports say he was close to 40 when he fought Muhammad Ali i believe.

    He actually had one of the best jabs in Heavyweight history, and ridiculously long reach for his height at 84 inches. And joke reports used to say his hand size was the size on dinner plates.

    I think Sonny Liston is one of the most underrated Heavyweight champions.
    I'm not underrating him, I'm just pointing out that history tells us he got whooped twice by Clay/Ali. He wasn't showing any signs of aging prior to those fights, he'd just detroyed Patterson twice in ide a round each time and had been walking through the best the division had to offer and knocking them all out. It's odd how there is no official record of his age, but he was reportedely 32 when he fought Clay in 64. H elaimed to have turned pro at 21, so that would've confirmed that.
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    I think I would roll with Sonny Liston and his jab.
    Unless he had to face Ali? Which on the basis of this competition, he would have to
    People underrate Sonny Liston, no one knew his true age, reports say he was close to 40 when he fought Muhammad Ali i believe.

    He actually had one of the best jabs in Heavyweight history, and ridiculously long reach for his height at 84 inches. And joke reports used to say his hand size was the size on dinner plates.

    I think Sonny Liston is one of the most underrated Heavyweight champions.
    I'm not underrating him, I'm just pointing out that history tells us he got whooped twice by Clay/Ali. He wasn't showing any signs of aging prior to those fights, he'd just detroyed Patterson twice in ide a round each time and had been walking through the best the division had to offer and knocking them all out. It's odd how there is no official record of his age, but he was reportedely 32 when he fought Clay in 64
    I think they say he was 36 when he fought Muhammad Ali.

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    His age is irrelevant. If you show blinding form and take a fearsome reputation into a contest you can't start making excuses - of being past it/out of form - if you get whipped.

    This age argument in boxing is a very dubious one.
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    Liston was a plodder , prime george foreman beheads him , and if a light punching ali boxes him to a standstill , larry holmes / Lewis / vitali / all beat him for me.

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    Liston was a plodder , prime george foreman beheads him , and if a light punching ali boxes him to a standstill , larry holmes / Lewis / vitali / all beat him for me.
    Sonny Liston used to spar with George Foreman, supposedly taught him all the bullying tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    Liston was a plodder , prime george foreman beheads him , and if a light punching ali boxes him to a standstill , larry holmes / Lewis / vitali / all beat him for me.
    Sonny Liston used to spar with George Foreman, supposedly taught him all the bullying tactics.
    Yes i know , but Liston was at his peak when he fought patterson , Foreman at his peak when he fought ali , put them together and i think Foreman stops him inside 3 rounds.
    would love to have seen the fight

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    I think I would roll with Sonny Liston and his jab.
    Unless he had to face Ali? Which on the basis of this competition, he would have to

    I think Sonny Liston is one of the most underrated Heavyweight champions.
    The only problem with Underrated fighters, is that they are easily overrated

    No, in all fairness, I think he beats all the guys Marciano beat (Charles, Walcaott, Moore etc). Him against Louis would of been an epic tear up.... But beyond that, I think a lot of other greats beat him up.
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