Dumbasses arguing about running.

[VictorCharlie]

I've always been told that if you don't have the incline on at least 1.5 that the treadmill essentially does a lot of work for you. Even at an incline I will run faster on the treadmill simply b/c it will keep me at a constant rate. My speed varies a lot when I'm doing road work. I can't run more than 4 miles on a treadmill though. I get bored out of my mind.

[ross]

I've always been told that if you don't have the incline on at least 1.5 that the treadmill essentially does a lot of work for you. Even at an incline I will run faster on the treadmill simply b/c it will keep me at a constant rate. My speed varies a lot when I'm doing road work. I can't run more than 4 miles on a treadmill though. I get bored out of my mind.

Yeah, same here, unless there is a tv screen in front with something interesting on and you can actually forget almost what your doing and before you know it youve done 20 or 30 minutes.

[Gandalf]

I thought the 'joining the army' thread had become somewhat off kilter, but this one takes the biscuit. I have no idea what anyone is rabbiting on about here. So, it's a thread about heavyweights that has turned into something about running? Very obtuse.

I agree with VanChild's that running machines are boring. I prefer to cycle rather than run, but must admit that I do neither these days. My walk is more like a run for a regular person anyway. Rather brisk. I can probably walk several miles in about 10 minutes.

[VictorCharlie]

Several miles in 10 minutes? What are you the flash?...hell I'd be impressed if you can walk 1 mile in 10 minutes.

[generalbulldog]

Not even Usain Bolt can walk a few miles in 10 minutes.

[Gandalf]

Several miles in 10 minutes? What are you the flash?...hell I'd be impressed if you can walk 1 mile in 10 minutes.

Nah, just kidding around there, I can't quite manage that.

I am an extremely brisk walker though. I have 34 inch legs that don't like to loiter.

[ono]

I thought the 'joining the army' thread had become somewhat off kilter, but this one takes the biscuit. I have no idea what anyone is rabbiting on about here. So, it's a thread about heavyweights that has turned into something about running? Very obtuse.

I agree with VanChild's that running machines are boring. I prefer to cycle rather than run, but must admit that I do neither these days. My walk is more like a run for a regular person anyway. Rather brisk. I can probably walk several miles in about 10 minutes.

Not unless you're Godzilla you can't.

[Master]

On the cross trainer I run 12kh in 37 minutes, knackering but cannot run on the road as my knees will not take the impact. I think outside running is harder BTW.

[AdamGB]

Stop being fags, fuck the treadmill, 45 minute run with 3-4 sets of hill sprints will shed fat and build more fitness than some drawn out plad ever will! Unless you've got weak joints you've no excuse.

Whilst I enjoy running distance (some what,i fucking love to sprint!) it's not the most effecient way to run unless your goals are just marathon type endurance. If it comes down to fat loss and Aerobic/Anaerobic thresholds and recovery rates ('conditioning') then slow, long duration training is quite literally a long road to no where.

It gives minimal metabolism boost and only really works one energy system.

You do need a good Aerobic base, but you should quickly progress on from there.

And as for 12.5 miles in 3 hours, I'm not a distance runner and I xan run 13.3 miles in about 1 hour 30. Don't know about with a 15kg pack... I'd imagine I'd be fastet than 3hrs though... You'll ve fine with a bit of training.

On the cross trainer I run

Does not compute!

[Master]

What I meant is that I "run" on the cross trainer without using the handles on the arms. There is no impact on the knees but builds up the muscles. I also sprint on it and sweat buckets which feels great after, it is starting part that is the hardest, knowing the pain I will have to go through to feel good.

[AdamGB]

heheh, I know... I'm just being a cock... I don't know what else you could call what you do on a cross trainer....

I think cycling is the technically correct term... but it sure as shit doesn't look like cycling!

They've got there uses... especially if you can't run.

have you tried much rowing? Great for sprint type training, I'm not a huge fan of cardio machines as such... but if I had to use one for various reasons it would be the rowing machine.

[No Contest]

What I meant is that I "run" on the cross trainer without using the handles on the arms. There is no impact on the knees but builds up the muscles. I also sprint on it and sweat buckets which feels great after, it is starting part that is the hardest, knowing the pain I will have to go through to feel good.

I run on the stationary bike, kind of looks silly though. I do push ups on the treadmill, and sit ups on the stair climber.

[CFH]

Stop being fags, fuck the treadmill, 45 minute run with 3-4 sets of hill sprints will shed fat and build more fitness than some drawn out plad ever will! Unless you've got weak joints you've no excuse.

Whilst I enjoy running distance (some what,i fucking love to sprint!) it's not the most effecient way to run unless your goals are just marathon type endurance. If it comes down to fat loss and Aerobic/Anaerobic thresholds and recovery rates ('conditioning') then slow, long duration training is quite literally a long road to no where.

It gives minimal metabolism boost and only really works one energy system.

You do need a good Aerobic base, but you should quickly progress on from there.

And as for 12.5 miles in 3 hours, I'm not a distance runner and I xan run 13.3 miles in about 1 hour 30. Don't know about with a 15kg pack... I'd imagine I'd be fastet than 3hrs though... You'll ve fine with a bit of training.

On the cross trainer I run

Does not compute!

What about a longish run (ie 8-11km) with numerous large hills mixed in (like hills that leave you gasping for breath when you reach the top)? That's something I do fairly regularly.

[ryanman]

Stop being fags, fuck the treadmill, 45 minute run with 3-4 sets of hill sprints will shed fat and build more fitness than some drawn out plad ever will! Unless you've got weak joints you've no excuse.

Whilst I enjoy running distance (some what,i fucking love to sprint!) it's not the most effecient way to run unless your goals are just marathon type endurance. If it comes down to fat loss and Aerobic/Anaerobic thresholds and recovery rates ('conditioning') then slow, long duration training is quite literally a long road to no where.

It gives minimal metabolism boost and only really works one energy system.

You do need a good Aerobic base, but you should quickly progress on from there.

And as for 12.5 miles in 3 hours, I'm not a distance runner and I xan run 13.3 miles in about 1 hour 30. Don't know about with a 15kg pack... I'd imagine I'd be fastet than 3hrs though... You'll ve fine with a bit of training.

On the cross trainer I run

Does not compute!

What about a longish run (ie 8-11km) with numerous large hills mixed in (like hills that leave you gasping for breath when you reach the top)? That's something I do fairly regularly.

Do you regret renaming the thread the way you did now you are taking part in it?