Overachievers in boxing

[Hulk]

Alfonso Gomez comes to mind. He beat Gatti, got a fight with Cotto, made some good paydays.

Certainly George Foreman in his comeback was quite an overachiever, winning the Heavyweight Title at age 45.

Roberto Duran achieved a tremendous amount late into his career.

Glen Johnson must be added to the list with 12 losses and he's 42 years old and the dark horse in the Super Middle tournament.

[X]

Nikolai Valuev (and his previous incarnation as Primo Carnera)

[CFH]

Timothy Bradley was the first name that sprung to mind. He's not a great boxer, he has little power, and his defense is average. Yet he's managed to beat everyone they put in front of him, including some very good fighters, and it arguable the best fighter in a deep division and a fixture on the P4P list.

Like Froch, he's the type of guy who's psychological make-up and determination makes up for any deficiency in skill they have.

[Master]

Gavin Rees to even win a world title was unbelievably good fortune.

[Spicoli]

Micky Ward-two careers, Jeff Harding, Keith Mullings, Cruz Carbajal, Steve Littles, Baldo ?

[BIG H]

Steve Collins achieved a helluva lot in comparison to his natural boxing talent

[TitoFan]

Alfonso Gomez comes to mind. He beat Gatti, got a fight with Cotto, made some good paydays.

Certainly George Foreman in his comeback was quite an overachiever, winning the Heavyweight Title at age 45.

Roberto Duran achieved a tremendous amount late into his career.

Glen Johnson must be added to the list with 12 losses and he's 42 years old and the dark horse in the Super Middle tournament.

To me, "overachiever" is a guy who goes far in his career despite having limited talents. IMO, Duran does NOT even come close to fitting that category. Glen Johnson, however, is the poster boy of overachievers.

[Spicoli]

What about a Iran Barkley?

[TitoFan]

What about a Iran Barkley?

He's a good example too. Also, I think John John Molina was an overachiever. He gave De La Hoya a good fight despite not being anywhere near him in talent.

[Spicoli]

What about a Iran Barkley?

He's a good example too. Also, I think John John Molina was an overachiever. He gave De La Hoya a good fight despite not being anywhere near him in talent.

Molina was a capable boxer, tight little counter puncher prior. Was off long run...and coming up.

Sticking with homeland I'd put Jake 'The snake' Rodriquez on list. Couldn't break eggs but hustled way to title and good story.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I wouldn't like to say that 'this is what it means to over achieve' because you can apply a different logic in a number of ways to come to a conclusion (obviously).
Another way of thinking is using Jermaine Taylor as an example of someone who reached for the stars, twice beating Bernard Hopkins to became undisputed world champion to then crash and fall at an alarming rate. By that logic you could possibly state Mike Tyson as a massive overachiever... Because lets face it, no one with that ridiculous side to side movement should be expected to accomplish anything in boxing right?

[Master]

Vaughn Bean - who is he and how did he get a shot at Holyfield?

[Fenster]

Some weird picks in this thread. Olympic gold medal winners that went on to be world champion? Undisputed champs? All-time greats?

This small crop of fighters that reach the pinnacle can seriously be classed as overachievers? Isn't just that they were brilliant fighters?

[Rantcatrat]

Having Wlad, Rocky Marciano, and Ricky Hatton on the thread doesn't make sense to me or maybe I don't really understand the thread.

[Fenster]

I'm a bit confused by this thread too.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If a brilliant fighter pulls off an upset it is surely because of their already established brilliance, they haven't overachieved because they've already achieved enough to make them great?