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I think ruiz was mandatory so he must have been top 10
Top ten in that organisation but not in general for the heavyweight division. Thats what im saying. Both Kessler and Abraham are leagues above Ruiz and Harrison and thats in their respective primes and when Haye fought them

i dont disagree, i think froch should be higher than haye

i personally think froch should be much higher than he is in the world p4p rankings

i keep banging on about how martinez is seen, yes he deserves to be to 10 but comparing his record to froches, froch deserves to be higher in my opinion

it would be interesting to know how ruiz was seen by the other organisations when he fought haye

The thing with Froch being p4p is that if you put him in, then Kessler would surely have to go above him, and Ward would have to go above both of them. Then Bute would have to be ranked up there as well. That seems a bit farcical to me. The Supermiddleweight division needs to clarify itself a bit first, wait and see who wins the super six before we make any of those guys p4p.
naa i dont think kes should go above froch just coz he won the fight, and ward coz he beat kes

its like saying cintron should be even with martinez coz he drew with him

and where would you stop?