Ivan Calderon vs Giovanni Segura - II

[TitoFan]

Finally watched the fight. Reminded me of Margarito vs. Cotto. First time seein Segura, he certainly looked a whole lot bigger, and was able to walk thru Calderon's punches. Calderon has always been a feather fisted little guy. Kind of was expecting to see more out of Segura technically, its neat he can switch between southpaw and orthodox, and he certainly has a punch.

Segura WAS a whole lot bigger. A few inches and a few pounds at that weight makes a lot of difference. All in all, however, I was totally disappointed in Calderon's effort. He fought a HELL of a lot better in their first fight. At least it seemed somewhat competitive while it lasted. This time it was one-sided from the "get-go". I don't know if I'd watch any more of Calderon's fights. He should probably just retire.

[Violent Demise]

Finally watched the fight. Reminded me of Margarito vs. Cotto. First time seein Segura, he certainly looked a whole lot bigger, and was able to walk thru Calderon's punches. Calderon has always been a feather fisted little guy. Kind of was expecting to see more out of Segura technically, its neat he can switch between southpaw and orthodox, and he certainly has a punch.

Segura WAS a whole lot bigger. A few inches and a few pounds at that weight makes a lot of difference. All in all, however, I was totally disappointed in Calderon's effort. He fought a HELL of a lot better in their first fight. At least it seemed somewhat competitive while it lasted. This time it was one-sided from the "get-go". I don't know if I'd watch any more of Calderon's fights. He should probably just retire.

Calderon didn't go to Mexico to fight. He went there to collect his last big pay check. Soon as it got tough he quit.

[TitoFan]

Finally watched the fight. Reminded me of Margarito vs. Cotto. First time seein Segura, he certainly looked a whole lot bigger, and was able to walk thru Calderon's punches. Calderon has always been a feather fisted little guy. Kind of was expecting to see more out of Segura technically, its neat he can switch between southpaw and orthodox, and he certainly has a punch.

Segura WAS a whole lot bigger. A few inches and a few pounds at that weight makes a lot of difference. All in all, however, I was totally disappointed in Calderon's effort. He fought a HELL of a lot better in their first fight. At least it seemed somewhat competitive while it lasted. This time it was one-sided from the "get-go". I don't know if I'd watch any more of Calderon's fights. He should probably just retire.

Calderon didn't go to Mexico to fight. He went there to collect his last big pay check. Soon as it got tough he quit.

I hate to say it....... but it's hard to disagree with you after watching that fight.

[Violent Demise]

Finally watched the fight. Reminded me of Margarito vs. Cotto. First time seein Segura, he certainly looked a whole lot bigger, and was able to walk thru Calderon's punches. Calderon has always been a feather fisted little guy. Kind of was expecting to see more out of Segura technically, its neat he can switch between southpaw and orthodox, and he certainly has a punch.

Segura WAS a whole lot bigger. A few inches and a few pounds at that weight makes a lot of difference. All in all, however, I was totally disappointed in Calderon's effort. He fought a HELL of a lot better in their first fight. At least it seemed somewhat competitive while it lasted. This time it was one-sided from the "get-go". I don't know if I'd watch any more of Calderon's fights. He should probably just retire.

Calderon didn't go to Mexico to fight. He went there to collect his last big pay check. Soon as it got tough he quit.

I hate to say it....... but it's hard to disagree with you after watching that fight.

I gave Calderon a lot of credit for not only taking the rematch right away. But taking it in Mexico. Fool got heart. But after the fight it was obvious he only agreed to fight in Mexico cuz it would get him the biggest check. I wouldn't have a problem if Calderon went down and just couldn't get up. He got his ass kicked by a younger, stronger fighter. It happens. But that wasn't the case here. Calderon actually went to the ropes to look for a place to take a knee. Disappointing.

[TitoFan]

Finally watched the fight. Reminded me of Margarito vs. Cotto. First time seein Segura, he certainly looked a whole lot bigger, and was able to walk thru Calderon's punches. Calderon has always been a feather fisted little guy. Kind of was expecting to see more out of Segura technically, its neat he can switch between southpaw and orthodox, and he certainly has a punch.

Segura WAS a whole lot bigger. A few inches and a few pounds at that weight makes a lot of difference. All in all, however, I was totally disappointed in Calderon's effort. He fought a HELL of a lot better in their first fight. At least it seemed somewhat competitive while it lasted. This time it was one-sided from the "get-go". I don't know if I'd watch any more of Calderon's fights. He should probably just retire.

Calderon didn't go to Mexico to fight. He went there to collect his last big pay check. Soon as it got tough he quit.

I hate to say it....... but it's hard to disagree with you after watching that fight.

I gave Calderon a lot of credit for not only taking the rematch right away. But taking it in Mexico. Fool got heart. But after the fight it was obvious he only agreed to fight in Mexico cuz it would get him the biggest check. I wouldn't have a problem if Calderon went down and just couldn't get up. He got his ass kicked by a younger, stronger fighter. It happens. But that wasn't the case here. Calderon actually went to the ropes to look for a place to take a knee. Disappointing.

It IS disappointing. And what's more..... the local press down here, which loves our local fighters but can be pretty harsh at times..... gave Calderon the "third-degree" when he came back from Mexico. Well-deserved, I might add. Matter of fact, Calderon himself admitted he could have gotten back up from the body blows, but chose not to. Bottom line is... if he decides to continue fighting, he's gonna have a hard time winning his fans back.

[boxingbantz]

Calderon is getting a hard time imo. He was getting battered by a bigger man. Have no problem with him 'quitting'.

[IamInuit]

Calderon is getting a hard time imo. He was getting battered by a bigger man. Have no problem with him 'quitting'.

Yup. Ivan has been an over achiever in a division completely ignored. I bet he never made more then 150 grand a fight.