Boxing's biggest problem is that it's on HBO/Showtime and not on regular tv

[generalbulldog]

Arum Talks Showtime, HBO's Issues, Shaw, More - Boxing News

Translation = Cluster Fk.

I can't believe I"m saying this but I do agree with Arum, although it was him that was partially at fault for helping to move boxing to premium cable. He has a point especially on the NFL. I was thinking the NFL could make a killing money wise if it was on premium cable and it's playoff games and SB was on PPV, but it would fuck the sport in the long term.

What a bold face liar! HBO is out for HBO ratings, Arum is the one selling to HBO because it's lump sum money. You don't have to work as hard as promoter when HBO buys the fights. HBO then turns around an markets the fight. It's like outsourcing the promotion. If you have to promote the fight, You have to be the one to buy the Air time and do all kinds of shit to draw attention to sell the fight. There is a lot of fucking work to do. You might not have recognized it, but you've seen GBP do this with the news infomercials on Floyd's fights although they could just call TMZ with his schedule. In Dallas, it was Jones doing the selling. And what Arum is really after, is those free advertisements he gets from the main stream new media. With Pacquiao, it is very easy because news media follows him. That shit about the other promoters and Alexander was just setting up to get Alexander over to Top Rank. I agree, he really is a "cluster fuk".

The NFL already does PPV in the form of Sports Cable network channels. And I'd be willing to bet, it brings down the ratings but makes them more money.

That shit ain't like boxing's PPV or boxing on being on HBO and Showtime. When's the last time you had to pay $54.99 to see Greenbay-Philly in the playoffs? Or whatever team playing in the Superbowl? Or any NFL team in the playoffs? And hell you get to see the local NFL team on the local tv network or a cluster of games every sunday on Fox, NBC, CBS.

That example isn't comparable at all.

[fan johnny]

Arum Talks Showtime, HBO's Issues, Shaw, More - Boxing News

Translation = Cluster Fk.

I can't believe I"m saying this but I do agree with Arum, although it was him that was partially at fault for helping to move boxing to premium cable. He has a point especially on the NFL. I was thinking the NFL could make a killing money wise if it was on premium cable and it's playoff games and SB was on PPV, but it would fuck the sport in the long term.

What a bold face liar! HBO is out for HBO ratings, Arum is the one selling to HBO because it's lump sum money. You don't have to work as hard as promoter when HBO buys the fights. HBO then turns around an markets the fight. It's like outsourcing the promotion. If you have to promote the fight, You have to be the one to buy the Air time and do all kinds of shit to draw attention to sell the fight. There is a lot of fucking work to do. You might not have recognized it, but you've seen GBP do this with the news infomercials on Floyd's fights although they could just call TMZ with his schedule. In Dallas, it was Jones doing the selling. And what Arum is really after, is those free advertisements he gets from the main stream new media. With Pacquiao, it is very easy because news media follows him. That shit about the other promoters and Alexander was just setting up to get Alexander over to Top Rank. I agree, he really is a "cluster fuk".

The NFL already does PPV in the form of Sports Cable network channels. And I'd be willing to bet, it brings down the ratings but makes them more money.

That shit ain't like boxing's PPV or boxing on being on HBO and Showtime. When's the last time you had to pay $54.99 to see Greenbay-Philly in the playoffs? Or whatever team playing in the Superbowl? Or any NFL team in the playoffs? And hell you get to see the local NFL team on the local tv network or a cluster of games every sunday on Fox, NBC, CBS.

That example isn't comparable at all.

Who said it was the same. My point being only that subscriptions are a move that causes a downturn in viewership because subscriptions cost. There is a point when you put too much financial demand on the fan and they do something else with their time. Promoters have unintentionally destoryed the fan base for the sport of boxing with their greed and point the finger at everyone else.